“Inception” And African-Americans

I saw the movie Inception when it first came out. It’s an excellent, original movie that I highly recommend. The basic plot of the movie is that a Japanese corporate executive has hired a group of people to try to plant an idea into the subconscious mind of the heir to a rival corporation. In the movie, this process of planting ideas into a target person’s mind is called “inception.” A friend and I recently had an email conversation about the movie. She’s graciously given me permission to quote her comments. [*Note: We generally refer to African-Americans as “our former people” because the masses of modern, “new school” African-Americans are unrecognizable to those of us with “old-school,” traditional African-American values.]

THERE ARE MANY REAL WORLD EXAMPLES OF OUTSIDERS SUCCESSFULLY PERFORMING VERBAL “INCEPTION” ON AFRICAN-AMERICANS

The pity is that, unlike in the movie, most African-Americans don’t have to be drugged to be vulnerable to inception. Simply hearing somebody else say something is enough to influence most of us. During the email conversation I said,

I forgot to mention something else about the movie that struck me. It reminds me of how clueless and easily manipulated our former people are. As the Nation of Islam (NOI) ministers often remark, African-Americans foolishly act out scripts written by other people that they mistakenly think are their own indeas.

And it doesn’t take much to influence the bulk of African-Americans. All White folks have to do is elevate a Negro to prominent status (via media promotion, job appointments, etc.), and most African-Americans will buy into whatever warped ideas that newly-elevated Negro is promoting. This is how African-Americans became suddenly “confused” and unsure of the monstrous aspects of conservative ideology (as they relate to our particular interests). All because we will blindly support any prominent colored person (such as Condi Rice and Colin Powell).

In Inception, the idea that they were trying to plant in the target corporate heir’s mind (“I’ll be my own man by breaking up my father’s business empire and building something new”) is similar to the idea that Elijah Muhammad’s son acted out after he inherited leadership of the NOI. That idea ultimately led to the dismantling and destruction of his father’s empire.

It reminded me of something that several Nation of Islam and CROE (Coalition for the Remembrance of Elijah Muhammad) ministers have said over the decades about Warithudeen (Wallace) Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad’s son:

(1) That basically the ideas that Warithudeen Muhammad had about “decentralizing” and “democratizing” the NOI were not his own original ideas. That these ideas had been verbally planted and suggested to him by the various government agents that had infiltrated the upper ranks of the NOI.

(2) That the government agents who gave him this ultimately destructive advice played on the typical motivations that sons of notable men have—to want to surpass their fathers.

Ultimately, I blame Elijah Muhammad for this. He didn’t properly groom his son to know how to make his own mark on the NOI while maintaining the base that his father had built. There’s an art to keeping what you inherit as a base while you expand into other directions.

INCEPTION ONLY WORKS WITH WEAK, UNQUESTIONING MINDS

In reply my friend said,

I would also take it one step further, these tactics only work with weak minds. A mind that does not put into question what is being said or shown or a mind that does not know itself is always in a vulnerable position with regards to others.

She’s right. I see proof of this everyday when I hear African-Americans blindly repeating other people’s talking points. Including talking points from Tea Party members and other racist Whites who are featured on Faux News. Just the other day, I read a comment by an African-American who was seriously repeating the (racist, White, Tea Party) “birther” lies about Pres. Obama purportedly not having a valid US birth certificate. That’s utterly insane.

I find it amazing that Blacks folks who have bought into that madness actually believe that the many right-wing, White racists at the FBI, CIA, and other alphabet-lettered government organizations would permit any Black-skinned, non-US-born-citizen to be sworn in as President of the US. The FBI, CIA, and so on are not known as institutions that are friendly to Black-skinned individuals. No matter how much any particular Black person buckdances.

I’ve observed similar patterns with African-American religious zealots who are single-issue fanatics. They will support any candidate who supports forcing pregnant women to give birth against their will. I’ve also seen the same pattern with African-Americans who blindly repeat Democratic Party officials’ talking points. Whatever slogan is being said during that day’s news cycle by the White Democratic Party officials will be hypnotically repeated by many African-Americans. Most African-Americans do very little thinking for themselves.

In one sense, one can argue this level of gullibility shows how much more free we are. In previous eras, there was no room for African-Americans to have that type of self-delusion: There’s nothing to be confused about when you have a noose around your neck.

WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION FROM?

Do you watch Fox “News”? If so, why in the world would you watch the equivalent of Pravda? Do you have more than one source of information? Do you have any international sources of information? Have you bothered to read a single book about any of today’s current events? Such as a biography of any of the key players in Iraq or Afghanistan (for example, Muqtada al-Sadr)?

[**Audience Note** Please, no spoilers about Inception during this conversation. Any comment that contains spoilers will not be published.]

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79 Responses to ““Inception” And African-Americans”

  1. As a people we are so lost.

    I thank you for bringing up people who will vote for a person just because of a pro-life platform.

    When the movie maafa21 came out with all the billboards and what not about the “genocide” of black babies that is occurring due to abortion. I remember finding out that the creator of was white southern pro-life activist who probably didn’t care about African-Americans on any other subjects but saw how easy we are to manipulate and is using us for his own purposes.

    I remember feeling sick about how many black people were on board with the message. It was then that I knew that the black community must not think much of black women. Which other group of women is expected to bring life into this world no matter what? These people did not care what kind of situations black children were being brought into as long as more were born. They didn’t seem to care what kind of situation the mother would be in or whether or not the mother would adequately be able to take care of the child. all that mattered was that Planned Parenthood was started by a believer in eugenics therefore by getting an abortion you are supporting genocide of black people. No talk about creating a community of support of that would make women feel safe and comfortable bringing new life into the world. None. Just “have babies” to strengthen the black community.

    This is when I knew the black community was lost.

    • magenta says:

      “No talk about creating a community of support of that would make women feel safe and comfortable bringing new life into the world. None. Just “have babies” to strengthen the black community.”

      What you just mentioned is yet another example of black people not being able to think for themselves and regurgitating someone else’s talking points. These black “pro-lifers” think what they are saying is so progressive and pro-black but all they are actually doing is assigning BW a position rooted in white supremacy. During slavery, BW were seen by massa as nothing but breeders and these black “pro-lifers” are doing nothing but reading from the same racist, sexist script. That is why you will hear nothing about providing assistance or stability to these mothers and children. BW are just incubators and nothing more to these people.

      • calpurnia says:

        How can it be racist to preserve life? the BOYS NEED TO BE TAUGHT ALSO BY ….MEN!

        • **Temporarily dipping back into the conversation for this single reply**

          “Calpurnia,”

          1-I must mention that I’m not impressed by your decision to hide behind a different screen name for these comments. What’s up with that? What would Jesus do? Would he hide behind a mask? I think not.

          I would have a bit more respect for your position if you stood behind it; thereby accepting the same accountability for your position that all the other discussion participants have accepted for theirs. Everybody else, including the other “pro-life” commenter is using their usual screen name. There’s no lynch mob here. I ask again: What’s up with the hiding? What’s that about?

          2-You said, “How can it be racist to preserve life? the BOYS NEED TO BE TAUGHT ALSO BY ….MEN!”

          But they haven’t been taught by men. And they WON’T be taught by men. At least not by BM. Because, judging by their inaction, one can reasonably conclude that AA men like things the way they are. And you know all of this. Since you already know this, now what? Some more abstinence talk? Where are your suggested concrete, practical solutions?

          3-While listening to your flow of comments, I was curious to see if you would ever get around to suggesting any answers regarding the increasing numbers of low IQ, genetically-predisposed to mental illness, and often facially deformed legions of unwanted, illegitimate, drug-exposed infants that the “Sheniquas” are having.

          I notice that you haven’t offered a single solution other than (the already demonstrated to be ineffective) abstinence slogans.

          Mentally retarded Sheniquas aren’t practicing abstinence; and they won’t.

          Mentally ill Sheniquas aren’t practicing abstinence; and they won’t.

          Drug-using Sheniquas aren’t practicing abstinence; and they won’t.

          Now what? I would like to hear some suggested answers from you. The Catholic Church has an organized religious-bases social service industry to clean up those sorts of messes through adoption. However, the Catholic adoption industry doesn’t work with AAs because the Sheniquas rarely give their unwanted babies up for adoption—these children have to be taken from them later on down the road. After they’ve been damaged by years of neglect and abuse.

          So, now what?

          **Going back into “radio silence”**

          Expect Success!

    • Zoopath says:

      Yeah, that whole debacle was soooo frustrating. No talk of actually supporting/raising children and mothers. Just havin’ ’em. Where’s the child support billboard? Would that have been as popular?

      • “Yeah, that whole debacle was soooo frustrating. No talk of actually supporting/raising children and mothers. Just havin’ ‘em. Where’s the child support billboard? Would that have been as popular?”

        No that would be “showing black men’s dirty laundry” and we can’t have that. The only people in the black community that are allowed to be shamed are black women.

    • calpurnia says:

      I dont know why people think the pro-choice is pro black woman. It doesnt make sense. We black women could build an ‘abstanance coalition’ for ourselves especially. Planned parenthood is mostly in the black communities AND were having beaucoup illegitimacy. I know this; women are more powerful when we’re more abstanent. It will be HOW its done; there a group called ‘True Love Waits’ that we should use.

      • “I dont know why people think the pro-choice is pro black woman. It doesnt make sense. We black women could build an ‘abstanance coalition’ for ourselves especially. Planned parenthood is mostly in the black communities AND were having beaucoup illegitimacy. I know this; women are more powerful when we’re more abstanent. It will be HOW its done; there a group called ‘True Love Waits’ that we should use.”

        So what we do with girls who decide not remain abstinent? As Khadija and many others have noted regarding Catholic beliefs and practice, teaching abstinence and a pro-life outlook without services that deal with the consequences of unwanted pregnancies is irresponsible. Unless the abstinence coalition you are proposing also has services that will help unplanned for children be put in productive homes or bring back shotgun weddings I don’t see how what you’re proposing is much better than the “keep your legs closed” ideology black girls are hearing currently.

    • calpurnia says:

      The black community was lost because of the sexual revolution and the mainstream of drugs that came with it. We’re the only group that couldn’t afford it since we we’re JUST trying to come out of the jim crow south. Other cultures tinker with it, but it didn’t drag them into the gutter like it did us, they had a ‘cushion’. 70% illegitimacy and 1/3 or all abortions is JUST TOO HIGH

  2. geekgrl says:

    I tend to get my news from alternative media/conspiracy sites (Alternet, Russia Today,Life After the Crash, and other blog links). Strangely, I’ve gotten conspiracy in my 30s.

  3. Tracy says:

    No, I don’t watch Faux News – when I want mindless comedy, I will watch Comedy Central.

    Thru cable and the Internet, I have access to and peruse the BBC radio and news outlets. NPR is also a favorite of mine, tho lately they are leaning a bit more to the conservative side…

    Lately, I have been researching the history of Haiti, it’s US connections, and leaders from past to present. One year and over 9 billion donated dollars later, and nothing major has changed….where is that money going, and who is stopping progress?

    Locally, I’m hard pressed to find anyone in the bc that can intelligently debate about current events (unemployment, war, economy, immigration) without magical thinking and phrases being thrown about. If you suggest anything less than Obama is the Savior with some people, you are in for a fight. And the ones that hate him don’t have any solutions other than the “we gotta stick together” “we as a people” “God will see us thru” rhetoric.

    I love God as much as the next person, but I have a feeling that he is fully prepared to watch the bc go further into it’s sinkhole, just to reiterate “I help those that help themselves” verse.

    The scariest thing about all of this, is these uninformed views are from LEADERS. Local government token holdouts, Church leaders, teachers…..no one sees that the house around them is burning…

  4. lafemmenoir says:

    Do you watch Fox “News”? If so, why in the world would you watch the equivalent of Pravda?

    *I don’t watch Faux News, nor do I support their programming by watching their channel. There is a show on the channel that I do like (House), but I watch it via the internet on an independant site. They will not make money off my viewership. I also try to dissuade friends/family from watching the channel, as well. I recently read in the HuPo that ACNeilsen recorded that 19,000 of it’s AA market households watched Faux News nightly! I was dumbfounded. Why would AA’s be watching this garbage? Speechless.

    Do you have more than one source of information? Do you have any international sources of information?

    *I get the majority of my information via various international news websites (BBC, CBC, Reuters, The Economist, L’Independant, etc). I do also read the NY Times, Huffington Post, USA Today,and Chicago Tribune Online, but my main source of information comes from my international links. I find that they provide more accurate information than do my US based sources. That’s just my opinion. I must also say that ~ALL~ news does come with a slant, but I find that these international sources tend to be more credible and accurate. Also, I wanted to mention the legislation that is out to committee right now- bill S 3480, ortherwise known as the Internet Kill Switch Bill. This bill, if approved, would legitimately give the President the power to halt some or all of the internet’s traffic for US users. This bill will be an amendment to the Homeland Security Act. The reason why I said legitimately, is because right now, the president doesn’t legally hold the power to do so, but if signed, it will give him the power to do so at his/her discretion, should they determine that it is in the nations best interest to do so or if they determine that there is a threat to national security.

    Have you bothered to read a single book about any of today’s current events? Such as a biography of any of the key players in Iraq or Afghanistan (for example, Muqtada al-Sadr)?

    *I must admit that I have not read any of the books published on the Iraq/Afghanistan or it’s key players. I do know that the puppet president of Afghanistan Hamid Kharzai was a rep for Unocal and was handpicked by the previous administration because he is a friend to the oil industry. I also know that under his “watch” crimes against Afghan women has increased and the US effort that was supposed to educate and liberate Afghani women was a farce. The women are worse off now than they were before Kharzi. I also know that since he took office he has filled his cabinet with his right-leaning cronies.

    In regard to the comment you made about black americans having moved away from their original selves and being lost and under-educated. I would say that I agree. A sad state we are in now.

    I often run across an article on the web that I post & share on my FB account. Recently, I was speaking to a friend who I thought was quite intelligent, who suggested that perhaps I should give a brief explanation of what the articles that I post are about because often, she doesn’t get why most of the articles I post are important to her. She couldn’t make the connection on her own. The article that she was responding to was the one on the Internet Kill Switch Bill (S3480) and also the Mandatory Public Service Bill (HR 5741). A fully grown, college-educated woman asked me to interpret the bills for her and tell her why the bill was relevent to her! Really?!

    This response piqued my curiosity about whether other’s were also having a difficult time understanding what was being posted. I put up a note asking whether they (my “friends”) were confused by the news stories and links that I posted on my account? The majority said yes, they didn’t get half of what I was posting. Mind you, some of these were articles from US papers, which are written at the educational level of 6th grade. Some of these people went to college, some did not, but all of them graduated from HS. The days of self-exploration and learning appear to be long gone. Most people want to be fed what they should know or say. And surprisingly, the people who claim to be the most independant turn out to be the biggest sheep. As my ex-husband would say, “Sheeple, raise sheeple children. Sheeplism is hereditary”. Sheep follow orders and stay with the flock, yes a few may stray away, but send the collie after them and they get right back in line wiith the group. This is not to say that one doesn’t escape every now and then, they do, but overwhelmingly, they end to stick with the group. I find that people, irregardless to race and social class, tend to like to stick with the group. Not all, of course, but most. Blacks are no exception to the rule.

    • Malacyne says:

      I think all critically-thinking people, especially non-white people, should watch Fox News. COINTELPRO- worked! How can you formulate a proper plan of rebuttal if one is not willing to understand the point of dissent. It will not go away by just ignoring this media outlet. The people at Fox are counting on you not to watch, they need a dumbed-down population in which to ply their demagoguery. They spin this very well and they are very organized and dangerous people. Don’t sleep on them. To be informed is to be armed with knowledge.

      • **Temporarily dipping back into the conversation to reply to this one comment**

        Malacyne,

        You said, “I think all critically-thinking people, especially non-white people, should watch Fox News. COINTELPRO- worked! How can you formulate a proper plan of rebuttal if one is not willing to understand the point of dissent….To be informed is to be armed with knowledge.”

        But that’s not how it works when AAs watch Faux News. This is because there are very few critical thinkers among the AA population (maybe 1%). There’s NO counterstrategy being formulated by the Black folks who watch Faux News. Instead, the Blacks who watch that madness are blindly swallowing whatever poison Fox is promoting.

        Respectfully, I believe we need to stop unduly flattering ourselves as a collective. Even our so-called critical thinkers don’t have a strategy to counter Fox News, which is our historical pattern. When have we ever had a counterstrategy? For anything? With the limited exception of the Nation of Islam, AAs didn’t have a counterstrategy for COINTELPRO. And in the NOI’s case, their defensive moves weren’t so much a counterstrategy, but a wise standard operating procedure that Elijah Muhammad had already established decades before. [Such as the NOI requirements that their members never carry weapons—which saved them from the mass, state-sponsored executions that the Panthers suffered.]

        The White House doesn’t even have a counterstrategy—in fact they recently gave Faux News a favored spot within the White House press room!

        Watching and then complaining about Faux News is not a counterstrategy. In the years that it’s been on, none of us have ever moved beyond complaining about it. Complaining is NOT a strategy. Since it’s been well-established that Blacks (including Pres. Obama) are not going to resist Faux News, it’s best that at least we don’t watch it. And thereby avoid having our mostly weak minds even more brainwashed than they already are.

        **Going back into radio silence**

        Expect Success!

  5. Hodan says:

    I’m planning to see the movie this Friday with a friend, this post made me look forward to it.

    Khadija: “WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION FROM?

    Do you watch Fox “News”? If so, why in the world would you watch the equivalent of Pravda? Do you have more than one source of information? Do you have any international sources of information? Have you bothered to read a single book about any of today’s current events? Such as a biography of any of the key players in Iraq or Afghanistan (for example, Muqtada al-Sadr)?”

    Hodan: I rarely watch TV, I usually watch Al Jazeera English, BBC, CBC, Rachel Maddow, Jon Stewart show, Colbert, PBS, various progressive blogs…Fareed Zakari on CNN sunday (only show worth viewing on CNN), mostly online….and looking forward to watching Christian Amanpour on ABC.

    I do watch Fox insane propaganda minded shows like Beck ones in a while, to see what other lies and criminal claims is he accusing the Obama admin and anyone who is not the bankrupt that is today’s American Conservatism. As one of my good friend conned, ‘Fox News is to Journalism, what Road Kill is to Fine Dining’.

    What Fox and mostly American media gets away with would be considered hate crime and debunked journalism in any other Western country with free press. What sickens me about Fox news is their race baiting, as Madow said so well in one of her show: White People, Black People are going to get you’.

    I agree with your comment about how we in the African/Black community in North America are so susceptible to every stupid claim or idea, just because a black face is saying it….or someone we think has our interest @ heart. It kinda reminds me of the discussion about black love and black women brain washed delusion of only a ‘black God…aka black man’ will do….when these same BM are exercising their right to sex and marry women around the globe and been doing it for decades.

    Lastly, its true that very few people are critical thinkers. Hence, why the so called ‘individualistic’ and egalitarian claim about Western culture is a big joke. We only think about these individual choices when it comes to the latest stunt in pop culture. Humans by nature are non-thinkers and followers, which is why genocide and horrendous crimes happen. Allah often states only few people would do good because they choice it and avoid doing harm if they were given the freedom to get away with it. A good and decent person is just that whether he/she are alone or among people they want to impress.

  6. RevolutionaryAndJoyful,

    You’re welcome!

    I can tolerate the forced birth ideology a little bit better when it’s coming from sincere Catholics who have a consistently expressed interest in preserving all forms of human life. This is the “Consistent Ethic of Life” that Joseph Cardinal Bernadin talked about. Because the Catholics who are sincerely concerned about “the seamless garment” of life (apparently a reference to John 19:23 in the Bible), tend to ALSO oppose the death penalty, nuclear weapons, and most wars.

    However, I’m disgusted by the vast majority of the pro-forced-birth, Negro Muslim and Negro Protestant AAs that I encounter. For many reasons:

    (1) These people generally ONLY profess concern about fetuses. Once somebody is born, then the pro-forced-birth AAs’ actions demonstrate that they are no longer concerned about that particular individual’s life. This shows that their true motives are more likely driven by the pleasures of: (a) a cheap form of holiness that revolves around cracking the whip on women; and (b) comes at somebody else’s expense.

    (2) The bulk of these people are NOT doing anything to clean up the current disasters created by the legions of existing unwanted, AA children. And they don’t have any sort of plan for how to clean this up. They’re not willing to risk endangering themselves and their biological children by taking these children into their homes. Not that I necessarily blame them. My issue is their lack of seriously thinking through the consequences of what they’re proposing (having even more unwanted AA children). As far as I’m concerned, this lack of follow-up thinking makes their position an utterly irresponsible one.

    I’m not recommending that naive, unprepared people take these unwanted children into their homes. The “typical” parent can handle normal children. But the bulk of the children in foster care are NOT normal children. You really need specialized preparation to deal with most of them.

    Anyone who has spent any amount of time working in the child welfare system (be it in court, or as a caseworker) can tell you an extremely ugly reality—many of the already existing discarded/taken away children in foster care are safety risks. For everybody around them. Many of them have negative genetic inheritances such as very low IQs and predispostions for severe mental illness. On top of these negative genetic inheritances, many of them have also been severely traumatized by their experiences of living with neglectful and abusive biological parents.

    Nobody talks about the adopted toddlers who hoard food in their pockets. Or the toddlers who bang their heads against walls when they don’t get their way. Or the adopted first-graders who try to rub the genitals of every adult they encounter—because that’s what they’ve been trained to do by their mother’s new-baby-daddy. Or who masturbates in public. Or the adopted 8-year-old who sexually molests the adoptive parents’ younger biological children. Or who is revealed to be schizophrenic when they hit puberty. All of this came up during a post at the previous blog (which is now a chapter in the book—the chapter about single adoption being “Plan B” for many AA women who haven’t married by 35).

    Nobody talks about the many failed adoptions that end up back in the child welfare courts.

    I’ve never met a pro-forced-birth AA who had any sort of plan for dealing with the existing unwanted pregnancies that turned into the above-described deranged AA children. No, they’re through with the situation after the woman/girl gives birth.

    (3) I’m annoyed by their often childish manner of evaluating ideas. Yes, it’s important to factor in who the source of a particular idea is. However, that’s only part of the scrutiny that should be given to ALL ideas, whatever their source. Even a stopped clock is factually correct twice a day.

    (4) In addition to having no plan to clean up the existing mess created by existing unwanted AA children, the pro-forced-birth AAs don’t understand that the birth of more unwanted AA children will be the DEATH of the rest of us. Having an AA collective that is increasingly filled with low IQ, predisposed to be mentally ill, neglected and abused children who are likely to continue the abuse cycle when they grow up does NOT help any of us.

    And let’s be real about our distate with so-called eugenics: The plain truth is that it’s the LEAST capable AAs who are having an ever-increasing proportion of AA births. Productive modern AAs generally don’t have more than 3 children. Many of our best and brightest BW are not having children (for a variety of reasons). Meanwhile, the AA female drug addicts, never-worked-a-day-in-their-lives welfare recipients, and criminals generally have at least 3-4 children—and it’s more like 5-6 births. This overall pattern does not bode well for the future of the AA collective.

    I said the following during a post at the previous blog, Home Is Where The Hate Is: Black Religious-Inspired Bigotry in Place of Godliness:

    I’ve been stunned into befuddled silence by the recent outbreaks of right-wing violence. From the assassination of a doctor who offered abortion services to the murder of a guard at the US Holocaust Memorial Museum.

    I was even more stunned when I pondered how African-Americans’ religious-inspired bigotry helps create the atmosphere that makes these slayings possible. We love to engage in hateful, hypocritical, bigoted talk.

    Our fake “holiness talk” isn’t about love of God. It’s about the pleasure of cracking the whip on other people. We revel in verbally stepping on people who are engaged in sexual activities that we have no interest in participating in, such as the gays. Meanwhile, the majority of our births are out of wedlock. Despite all of our “We want forced births to be the law of the land” rhetoric, we are avid consumers of abortion services.

    We are hateful bigots.

    We are shameless hypocrites.

    We are self-destructive fools.

    By our bigoted statements and actions, we are ultimately supporting White, racist politicians who will turn back the clock on all of our (already extremely fragile) advancements.

    This is what happened when many confused African-Americans voted for Pres. Bush to have a second term in office. I had many arguments with many confused Blacks who told me that they were voting for Bush because of so-called “moral issues” (translation: their opposition to gays having rights). Many of the Black folks saying these things were shacked up and had illegitimate children. [Translation: “By stepping on gays, I get to feel a rush of holiness without having to engage in any sort of self-discipline.”] I noticed that some of this “moral issues” talk dried up after Pres. Bush did a “heckuva job” of ignoring the Black deaths and suffering caused by Hurricane Katrina.

    By our bigoted statements and actions, we are ultimately supporting White, racist extremists who will turn their guns on US.

    Even worse, I believe that our fake religiosity (which takes the form of bigoted statements and actions) is pushing us further and further away from God! The proof is in our ever-declining collective quality of life.

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    Magenta,

    You said, “During slavery, BW were seen by massa as nothing but breeders and these black “pro-lifers” are doing nothing but reading from the same racist, sexist script. That is why you will hear nothing about providing assistance or stability to these mothers and children. BW are just incubators and nothing more to these people.”

    I agree. Like I said above, I would have more respect for that position if the Black folks talking that stuff: (1) were consistent in their professed concern about “life,” and (2) had a plan for dealing with the existing unwanted AA children.
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    Geekgrl,

    You said, “I tend to get my news from alternative media/conspiracy sites (Alternet, Russia Today,Life After the Crash, and other blog links). Strangely, I’ve gotten conspiracy in my 30s.”

    {chuckling} There doesn’t have to be an overt, explicity-stated conspiracy for various elites to gravitate toward producing the same outcomes (that they individually believe to be in their best interests).
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    Tracy,

    You said, “Locally, I’m hard pressed to find anyone in the bc that can intelligently debate about current events (unemployment, war, economy, immigration) without magical thinking and phrases being thrown about. If you suggest anything less than Obama is the Savior with some people, you are in for a fight. And the ones that hate him don’t have any solutions other than the “we gotta stick together” “we as a people” “God will see us thru” rhetoric.

    I love God as much as the next person, but I have a feeling that he is fully prepared to watch the bc go further into it’s sinkhole, just to reiterate “I help those that help themselves” verse.”

    I’m convinced that the type of rhetoric you described is driving the AA collective further AWAY from God’s grace and mercy.
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    Lafemmenoir,

    You said, “I recently read in the HuPo that ACNeilsen recorded that 19,000 of it’s AA market households watched Faux News nightly! I was dumbfounded. Why would AA’s be watching this garbage? Speechless.”

    Indeed. It’s frighteniing that so many AAs seek out and watch the Klan Network.

    You said, “*I get the majority of my information via various international news websites (BBC, CBC, Reuters, The Economist, L’Independant, etc). I do also read the NY Times, Huffington Post, USA Today,and Chicago Tribune Online, but my main source of information comes from my international links. I find that they provide more accurate information than do my US based sources. That’s just my opinion. I must also say that ~ALL~ news does come with a slant, but I find that these international sources tend to be more credible and accurate.”

    I agree. I also find that the non-US media tend to be upfront and open about their various ideological slants; which I greatly appreciate. No matter how subtle it may be, there’s always a pre-existing viewpoint attached to how any piece of information is presented.

    You said, “*I must admit that I have not read any of the books published on the Iraq/Afghanistan or it’s key players. I do know that the puppet president of Afghanistan Hamid Kharzai was a rep for Unocal and was handpicked by the previous administration because he is a friend to the oil industry.”

    Just with that one piece of information, you know more than I’d guess 99% of Americans. Which is a disgrace, considering that the US has been occupying that country for almost a decade now.

    You said, “The days of self-exploration and learning appear to be long gone. Most people want to be fed what they should know or say. And surprisingly, the people who claim to be the most independant turn out to be the biggest sheep. As my ex-husband would say, “Sheeple, raise sheeple children. Sheeplism is hereditary”. Sheep follow orders and stay with the flock, yes a few may stray away, but send the collie after them and they get right back in line wiith the group.”

    You’re ex-husband is right. It’s sad to say, but it’s true.

    You said, “I find that people, irregardless to race and social class, tend to like to stick with the group. Not all, of course, but most. Blacks are no exception to the rule.”

    This is true. However, AAs can’t afford to be sheeple.

    Expect Success!

    • LaJane Galt says:

      Can’t wait to see the movie. Thanks for killing the spoiler risk K!

      I think Washington, DC is Ground Zero.

      **
      Thank you for your discussion on the abortion issue.

      I’ve always kept my opinion on this matter quiet around many AfAms that scream about Sanger, PP, birth control or abortion and the ubiquitous YT. (I don’t ever hear any screaming about baby’smama’sboyfriend who beats/rapes a kid to death…) I’ve read this on everything from conservative to left-leaning “conscious” to christian blogs.

      A long time ago (junior high), I realized that some people should have abortions, that it would cruel for them to bring forth a child in their circumstances. In general, I think there is some merit to careful population growth (not talking about abortion, racialized eugenics). I wholeheartedly agree that the wrong people are having babies and constitute a disproportionate amount of the collective. These people have wrecked poor communities and are wreaking havoc on working class ones. A very basic level of common sense dictates that you don’t want to go past a critical mass of dysfunction.

      It is usually some guy screaming about we need to get our numbers up and breed…with no thought about the current situation that we are in. The goal seems to be to outbreed Latinos and maintain some sort of “status.” The focus is on numerical “strength.” As if we are “the favored (hah) minority.” What’s ironic to me, is that I see how enslaved a mindset someone has when they just think of themselves as bodies…commodities…things. Conventional wisdom has it that having more “things” is better than having less “things”…no?

      They don’t seem to understand, those babies aren’t the mestizo babies that are loved by mostly intact family units and tolerated, or even celebrated, by a [powerful] liberal, white, portion of the country.

      College students won’t learn their “language”, or study in their country (the hood), or learn their “customs”. Grad students and non-profit/NGO types won’t work at, start or fund community centers to engage them, keep them off the streets, give them health care.

      Yuppies won’t go to their restaurants, savor their cuisine, wear their handicrafts, travel to their “lands”. In my city, yuppie folks go to Honduras all the time. They will never cross the river (that’s how we refer to the Anacostia)! (FTR, I don’t either. What for?)

      Yuppies even prefer that they raise their kids now (cheaper, learn Spanish) and are even marrying them (it can be advantageous). Yuppies don’t mind them breeding and living (as families) in the neighborhood because this is a palatable, safe, fun, sort of diversity that harkens back to the ol’ Peace Corps days (note, this sort of thing is more popular with whites from Wonder Bread parts of the US). I note that Teh gangs do not f-x with Teh whitefolks. Not.at.all. Now the black “crews” mess with all…and get dealt with…systematically.

      All of this is not to have a pity party, but to explain some very real trends that I experience in my own environment every.single.day…while the National Association of Other People Chasers is wasting old black ladies’ dollars…and the vestiges of our ever-dwindling collective political capital (as I’ve explained, white guilt has a new focus).

      You nailed it:

      This shows that their true motives are more likely driven by the pleasures of: (a) a cheap form of holiness that revolves around cracking the whip on women

      Left, right, upside-down these people have lost their ever-loving minds.

      To hear a group of males have the temerity-the outright gall- to opine on Black women’s reproductive matters, when they are the least likely to contribute to an intact black family because: (1) they are more likely to create incalculable bastards who pose a danger to said families and remaining women, and/or (2) their political bent leads them to delight, exclusively, in and support non-black women’s children, feign concern for Teh Black Race by supporting a Force whose raison d’etre is destruction of That Race is mind-boggling.

      • Faith says:

        LaJane: I’ve been here in DC Metro for a few months and I have been shocked and rather horrified about the state of the black collective here. I’m certain many will say they’re doing well (and they may be) but I can’t help but notice the long-term urban blight. This is despite the renovation projects and I’m also thinking in terms of the dwindling (non-existent?) political capital. Perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised but since I went from an area with a low black population (3%) to a much larger one I did have higher expectations. Or maybe I have different priorities, but between that, Obama’s distance from blacks and the picking off of CBC Members I can’t help but think this is cause for concern.

    • Malacyne says:

      I am looking forward to seeing Inception. The hype has me curious. I am perplexed and very suspicious, for want of a better word, by pro-lifers that spin a racial element to their propaganda. Comprehensive sex education is needed to combat the corrupted dynamic of sexuality in America. This has nothing to do with religion because an atheist can come to the same conclusion as a devout : having children when you are ready and able to take proper care of them within a partner in a social contract (read: marriage) is ideal for all involved and society. I try not to get tripped up over religion since the myriad of black people have many string of faith. I admit I almost cringe when people bring religious elements into discussions like this. I can appreciate someone faith but I tend to favor more practical solutions rather than rehashing facts that have already been espoused. Thanks for this post! It’s been an enlightening read.

  7. Hodan says:

    I forget to answer your qs about reading books or articles on Afghanistan and Iraq, etc. I’ve read and know from my friend who is doing her PhD on Afghanistan (she is focusing on the Taliban rule before 911 and Islamic Court in Somalia during the 2002-2004)….that the main reason Taliban came to power were 2 reasons:

    1. They promised to end all corruptions….particularly the drug industry….and largely succeeded reducing it by 80%.

    2. They promised to stop the kidnapping and raping of little boys by Northern Alliance and some in Southern Afghanistan…and would kill any man who had sex with a boy (most of these kids are 4-10yrs old).

    What I found entertaining and absurd is how American media and people were concerned more with how Taliban (as harsh and brutal as they were) forced women to wear the burqa…..but no one now cares how rape of children and women is so high….how women are either forced into underground prostitution or forced marriages to different men and even the selling of their children due to extreme poverty. Many Afghans to this day prefer security and protection of their children under Taliban than the joke that is Hamid Karzia and US/Nato endless violence. By the way, Karzai brother is a major drug lord financed by the CIA.

    Iraq is another mess like most Arab countries and it will take pages to talk about it.

    • LaJane Galt says:

      There is a sad doc you may want to check out called The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan. You can watch it on Hulu.

      I’ve got the graveyard of empires on my reading list. Has anyone read it yet?

      ***

      I must say, the sheeplism is depressing. After watching AAs watch Obama (with the NAACP’s help) throw Sherrod under the bus, deflect from the real problem and watch the Senate snatch what was due from farmers..I’ve given up.

      • I saw that documentary. It really is heartbreaking. In my never-ending TBR stack, I’ve got a book about terrorism called Denial by Jessica Stern, and she discusses this issue as well. She interviewed a lot of terrorists and concluded that a lot of terrorism is informed by humiliation and PTSD. Obviously this practice of raping boys this way is almost like a primer in how to build a terrorist. I haven’t read the book yet, but listened to an interview she gave on npr. She’s a terrorism expert who was a victim of rape as a teenager. I think we all know that the overwhelming majority of people who rape have themselves been victims of rape.

        http://www.amazon.com/Denial-Memoir-Terror-ebook/dp/B003JBI2JI

        One of the books I’ve written has a Muslim heroine, and when I was working on it I did a lot of research about dating and romantic relationships in countries that practice Sharia law, and found it very interesting. Because it’s forbidden for men and women to be alone together it’s actually easier to practice homosexuality in some of these countries than it is to have premarital straight sex. Apparently in some countries there are a lot of young men from other countries that are essentially prostitutes. The mindset is that as long as you aren’t a “receiver” you’re not a homosexual. Obviously all this is strictly forbidden, but practiced fairly widely nonetheless.

  8. I too can at least respect the position of that segment of the Catholic population that is in the trenches doing the work. Love them or hate them, as a social worker they were often my go-to folks for resources and they were always willing to help pay someone’s rent, utility bills and on more than one occasion they paid for an automobile repair so a child would have transportation to school. (Other churches were also quite helpful, but the Catholic Center of Concern had a systematic network in place that worked like a well-oiled machine.) I don’t agree with their position on abortion or birth control, but at least they do put their money where their mouths are. They are also downright pit-bullish when it comes to an adoption. I don’t know if it was guilt-tripping or what, but I had more Catholic adoptive parents than any other group. Seventh Day Adventists were also strong in that area as well.

    These so-called pro-life blacks remind me of the folks who are opposed to trans-racial adoption. I get angry every time I think about those morons. Do I agree that an effort should be made to preserve a child’s culture? Most assuredly, but first and foremost I believe a child’s basic needs must be met first. More importantly, I don’t see these groups out there making any efforts to provide homes for these children. They scream and cry that “the state” should make a greater effort to recruit black foster/adoptive homes. I used to wonder if these people were totally out of their minds. First, the state has very limited resources, and certainly most taxpayers have no interest in having their money spent on foster/adoptive children. If black folk were really concerned about this issue they could have done what Native Americans have done. They have treaties whereas that when a NA child comes into foster care, the tribe immediately takes custody. I can’t imagine there’s a state in the union that would have a problem with doing much of the same with AAs, but do you see any black folk advocating for this? Of course not. They look to the state to do more and more. You know, that same state that enslaved us and enforced Jim Crow. In what universe do these people live that they want these children they’re so concerned about to be left to the tender mercies of the state?

    I watch very little news on television. I tend to get my news online, and I like some variety: I read the various liberal blogs HuffPo and such and the NYT. I also like several foreign news sites, but mainly the BBC. I used to be an avowed news junkie, but have cut back considerably as I’ve focused more on my family and my own health. I generally concentrate on things that will have a greater impact on me and mine, things that I can do something about and leave the rest alone. Essentially I’m looking for information that will aid me and mine in empire building or ensuring our safety and security.

  9. As for books on current events in the Middle East I haven’t read any books about what is happening right now, but I’ve read quite a few on the origins of the conflicts. The best IMO hands down is A Peace to End All Peace. I also read The Proud Tower which is more about the 19th century conflicts that led to the Great Game and Europe essentially committing mass suicide with WWI. I read The Fall of the Ottoman Empire which of course encompasses most of the territory in question, though at the time I was more interested in the Bosnian/Serbian situation. King Leopold’s Ghost which is more about what was known as The Belgian Congo, but since I’m convinced that there’s is a conflagration breeding on the African continent that will make the Middle East look like a Junior League luncheon, I don’t think it’s too far off topic. The Fate of Africa and Dead Aid is also along these same themes.

  10. Hodan,

    You said, “What Fox and mostly American media gets away with would be considered hate crime and debunked journalism in any other Western country with free press.”

    Exactly. It’s similar to how most Americans have NO sense of how US politics are far, far, FAR to the right of even conservative parties in most other Western industrial countries. The American Democratic Party would be considered a conservative party in many Western European countries.

    You said, “Lastly, its true that very few people are critical thinkers.”

    I’ve always found that to be a disturbing, and downright frightening, pattern. This is how witch hunts and genocides happen. Nobody questions the madness being spewed by Radio Rwanda/Fox News.

    You said, “I forget to answer your qs about reading books or articles on Afghanistan and Iraq, etc. I’ve read and know from my friend who is doing her PhD on Afghanistan (she is focusing on the Taliban rule before 911 and Islamic Court in Somalia during the 2002-2004)….that the main reason Taliban came to power were 2 reasons:

    1. They promised to end all corruptions….particularly the drug industry….and largely succeeded reducing it by 80%.

    2. They promised to stop the kidnapping and raping of little boys by Northern Alliance and some in Southern Afghanistan…and would kill any man who had sex with a boy (most of these kids are 4-10yrs old).”

    This is the consensus among the various books that I’ve read.

    Also, in his book, Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror, CIA veteran Michael Scheuer sums up what he calls 7 truths about Afghanistan that have been ignored by US decision makers. From the Wikipedia entry about this book (I can’t find my copy to verify the page numbers listed, but I do recall these points being mentioned in that book):

    Seven truths about Afghans ignored by U.S.:

    (1) only Pashtuns rule durably (47);

    (2) the U.S. backed Westernized Afghans, not the “Muslim tribal xenophobes” who matter (48-49);

    (3) Afghans can’t be controlled by money (49-51);

    (4) strong central governments, like the one Karzai is seeking, cause war in Afghanistan (52);

    (5) Afghanistan is a cauldron of international tensions (53-54);

    (6) Pakistan’s national security depends on an Islamist, Pashtun-dominated régime (54-56);

    (7) an Islamic régime in Kabul is inevitable (56-57).

    From this, and some other books I’ve read that discuss Afghanistan’s history, it seems that:

    1-Even though Pashtuns are the largest Afghan ethnic group, the US-installed Afghan government and Afghan Army is numerically dominated by minority ethnic groups within that country. Karzai is an ethnic Pashtun. However, he’s very Westernized; he was installed by the American military; and it doesn’t sound as if he ever had a natural base of support among Afghans (in contrast to somebody like Muqtada al-Sadr). To the extent that at least at one point in time, ALL of Karzai’s personal bodyguards were US soldiers and/or mercenaries, err . . . “contractors.” This was quite telling.

    2-Modern Afghanistan has always had a weak central government, with village elders and tribal rulers actually running day to day affairs outside of the capital city. Efforts to take power away from these provincial leaders by having a highly centralized government has usually resulted in fighting.

    3-The last 35+ years of war has resulted in (now entrenched) shifting authority away from traditional tribal and village elders and toward provincial religious leaders. Much of this was the result of the US, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan supporting religious-based resistance groups during the jihad against the Soviets and the Soviet-backed Communist government(s). From what I’ve read, it sounds like many Afghan men wanted to resist the Soviets, but any and all military assistance (weapons, money, etc.) from the US was solely funnelled through the jihadi religious groups. And not given to groups headed by tribal/village elders. So, if an Afghan man wanted to resist the Soviet invasion, he more or less had to join a religious party, and fight under a mullah’s leadership to get access to the sorts of weapons needed to fight them.

    That pre-Taliban situation with the lawless Afghan warlords, and the post-US-invasion anarchy in Iraq (of rampant death squad murders) made me reconsider some of the comments I’ve read by some Muslim religious jurists. Specifically, I’ve reconsidered some of them asserting that anarchy is worse than tyranny. And that this is why they believe Muslims should support the (Muslim) ruler, even if he is unjust. At first, I thought that any religious scholar who took this position was simply insane, corrupt, and a crony of whichever tyrant he lives under.

    However, reading accounts of the post-US invasion, death-squad-infested anarchy in Iraq made me rethink that reaction.

    People really can’t do anything in the absence of basic physical security. You can’t go to work, you can’t shop for food, your children can’t go to school, and nobody can do much of anything else when multiple sectarian death squads are running loose. And this is exactly what happened—for YEARS—to the Iraqi people after the US removed Saddam Hussein. Which is why some Iraqis who had been persecuted by Hussein became nostalgic for his regime. At least most dictators will leave people to live in relative peace as long as they stay out of politics, and avoid running afoul of the dictator. So, I’ve come to see that anarchy IS worse than many tyrants. Which ties in with your comment when you said, ” Many Afghans to this day prefer security and protection of their children under Taliban than the joke that is Hamid Karzia and US/Nato endless violence.”

    Yep. Basic physical security is a prerequisite for everything else. You can’t do anything when your life is under constant threat.

    You said, “Iraq is another mess like most Arab countries and it will take pages to talk about it.”

    I believe that the bottom line is that the people of Iraq and Afghanistan have to figure out their OWN social contracts (or the complete termination of such through partition of their countries) on their own.

    Expect Success!

    • Zoopath says:

      I think that we need to leave both countries. I don’t think we’re helping ourselves, the Iraqis or the Afghans. We don’t understand the situations enough to help and the countries we’re occupying haven’t figured out what they want their country to look like. I’ve actually been developing a new foreign policy the past year, it’s called: Let China Do It. I think the US needs to fix it’s own house and stop spending billions of dollars with wars and intervention elsewhere. China has way more people and tons of excess cash lying around so I say if a mission is so important for global security, then let them handle it. Afghanistan is closer to China than it is to us anyway.

    • LaJane Galt says:

      Imperial Hubris hit me like a lightning bolt. I didn’t want to lend it, because I wanted to make sure I got it back!

      Your point about security explains, in part, Hamas. Whoever can keep the hospital going, perform blood transfusions, make sure babies are born will get allegiance. It is a basic fact.

      Iraq is a product of Balfour, Churchill et al. It will dissolve into 3 countries as it should.

  11. Roslyn,

    You said, “I too can at least respect the position of that segment of the Catholic population that is in the trenches doing the work. . . . I don’t agree with their position on abortion or birth control, but at least they do put their money where their mouths are. They are also downright pit-bullish when it comes to an adoption. I don’t know if it was guilt-tripping or what, but I had more Catholic adoptive parents than any other group. Seventh Day Adventists were also strong in that area as well.”

    I take the Catholic position about abortion and birth control seriously, and give them a certain amount of respect, because their actions demonstrate that they are S-E-R-I-O-U-S about what they’re saying.

    You said, “These so-called pro-life blacks remind me of the folks who are opposed to trans-racial adoption. I get angry every time I think about those morons. . . . More importantly, I don’t see these groups out there making any efforts to provide homes for these children. They scream and cry that “the state” should make a greater effort to recruit black foster/adoptive homes. I used to wonder if these people were totally out of their minds.”

    As with 99.99% of mass AA talking points, this stuff is empty rhetoric. There’s no intention whatsoever of following through on that talk (like the Catholics do). As is our tradition, these self-described “pro-life” Blacks are looking for somebody else (meaning the state, as you noted) to make all the efforts toward cleaning up the mess.

    You said, “If black folk were really concerned about this issue they could have done what Native Americans have done. They have treaties whereas that when a NA child comes into foster care, the tribe immediately takes custody. I can’t imagine there’s a state in the union that would have a problem with doing much of the same with AAs, but do you see any black folk advocating for this? Of course not. They look to the state to do more and more. You know, that same state that enslaved us and enforced Jim Crow.”

    Exactly. And this is a modern, new-school AA attitude. Our grandparents’ generation simply took in neighborhood children who weren’t being properly cared for. This is how one of my uncles became my uncle. When my aunt was in high school in the 50s, my grandparents apparently didn’t care for the manner in which her unmarried teenage friend was dealing with her (illegitimate) baby. So, they took in the girl’s baby and raised him as their son. And that was that. They weren’t looking for subsidies from the state (translation= the word “charity” which was always said with a sneer by the older men in my family).

    You said, “I used to be an avowed news junkie, but have cut back considerably as I’ve focused more on my family and my own health. I generally concentrate on things that will have a greater impact on me and mine, things that I can do something about and leave the rest alone. Essentially I’m looking for information that will aid me and mine in empire building or ensuring our safety and security.”

    The same with me. I do make allowances for my “geostrategy nerd” interests. I try to stay reasonably abreast of the overall global trends that will ultimately impact me.

    You said, “. . . I’m convinced that there’s is a conflagration breeding on the African continent that will make the Middle East look like a Junior League luncheon . . .”

    That’s interesting. I’ll check out the books you mentioned.

    Expect Success!

  12. Our grandparents’ generation simply took in neighborhood children who weren’t being properly cared for.

    My mama did the same. Over the years she took in more than a dozen kids. She used to tease me that she was a better social worker than me because none of her kids wound up in the system. (She was right.) Back then, at least in the south, there was no social welfare system for black people. One black woman in Huntsville named Chessie Harris founded Harris Home for Children and she took in children as well. Back then there was no foster care or welfare payment for those children. It’s simply what was done.

    Again, I’m not recommending that anyone take up rearing other folks’s children these days. IMO, the circumstances and the liabilities are considerably higher than they were back then. All too often these days the children are the product of multi-generational mental illness/substance abuse, etc… It’s unfortunate, but it’s simply too great a risk. However, I think it’s absolutely insane to encourage the least able members of our population to continue producing children they can’t care for, while discouraging other groups from adopting these children. It’s madness plain and simple.

  13. Roslyn,

    You said, “My mama did the same. Over the years she took in more than a dozen kids.”

    May God bless her!

    You said, “Back then, at least in the south, there was no social welfare system for black people.”

    One of my coworkers who is from the south says that it’s still much the same—at least relative to the money spent in Illinois for social services, etc. There’s just no money to waste on the sort of protracted, expensive foolishness that goes on in the Illinois child welfare system.

    You said, “Again, I’m not recommending that anyone take up rearing other folks’s children these days. IMO, the circumstances and the liabilities are considerably higher than they were back then.”

    I 100% co-sign. The circumstances and risks involved in taking in other people’s children were totally different back in the day. Let me stress that I’m also NOT recommending that folks take in modern foster care children. Not unless they have the ability and time to “crazy-child-proof” and “lawsuit-proof” their homes, their families, and their lives.

    You said, “All too often these days the children are the product of multi-generational mental illness/substance abuse, etc… It’s unfortunate, but it’s simply too great a risk.”

    Exactly! Those AAs who don’t have regular contact with large numbers of the AA underclass have NO clue about how dangerous and defective this demographic and their offspring are. And this demographic’s level of functioning is decreasing with each year. Let me give one example that most folks aren’t aware of/have never really considered:

    EVERY mentally retarded AA woman client or client’s daughter that I’ve ever encountered (who’s not living in some kind of institution) has been/is being long-term sexually exploited by some non-retarded man/men. Every. Single. One.

    These (in some cases, working and married) NON-retarded AA males often tell these retarded women to hand over their disability checks. And they do. Many of these women and girls have babies—year after year—by these various males who are exploiting them. Social services doesn’t always catch up with these exploited, retarded women with their first baby. They have to get caught doing something strange with their child to put themselves on the child welfare “radar.”

    Some of these retarded, long-term sexually exploited women don’t get noticed by child welfare until after their first few children are delayed and pregnant pre-teens/young teens themselves! By which point, these women typically have a brood of at least 4-5 children. Most of whom are delayed and/or emotionally disturbed themselves. Even if their children had a chance of being born with a normal IQ, what chance did they have of growing up to be functional—after being raised by this type of mother? Slim to none.

    Many of these retarded women are on drugs; others of them are mentally ill. A large number of these women are retarded, AND using drugs, AND mentally ill—all at once. These women are not going to have it together enough to use birth control.

    What in the world does anybody expect from the grandchildren birthed by these women’s also sexually exploited, pre-teen and teenage, delayed and retarded daughters?!!! How do these “we need raw numbers” Black folks think we’re going to build a functioning collective off of multiple generations of mentally ill, drug-marinated, developmentally delayed brains?

    AAs need to stop tripping about this “we need raw numbers to build our nation” madness. A nation composed of GENERATIONS of dysfunctional people is a burden and a disaster for the normal people among that group.

    Expect Success!

    • Khadija and Roslyn Holcomb,

      I want to thank both of you for your strong words regarding adoption of foster kids. I am 20 and have decided to not have kids. Part of my thought process has been that if I change my mind after my prime fertile years (I’m not a fan of IVF or sperm donation nor can I imagine ever donating my eggs) I would adopt a child. You have put things in a whole new perspective for me and given me a lot to think about. I’m now leaning towards just staying childfree.

      I have another question as well. I’ve read that black and older foster children are often the hardest to place. Is this because people know about the dysfuntion that you mentioned before or because people don’t want to draw too much attention to themselves by caring for a child of a different race?

      Thanks again for sharing your wisdom.

  14. ZooPath,

    You said, “I’ve actually been developing a new foreign policy the past year, it’s called: Let China Do It. I think the US needs to fix it’s own house and stop spending billions of dollars with wars and intervention elsewhere. China has way more people and tons of excess cash lying around so I say if a mission is so important for global security, then let them handle it. Afghanistan is closer to China than it is to us anyway.”

    The Chinese are NOT stupid enough to do what the US has been doing. They’re too busy securing Africa’s natural resources for themselves (and therefore securing their future—while the US bleeds itself dry of money and resources). http://the-diplomat.com/2010/07/17/why-china-wins-africa-game/

    Expect Success!

    • ZooPath says:

      Oh, I know they’re not stupid enough to do that. They’re more than happy to stand by and enjoy the global security that comes from all of our sacrifices. It only makes us weaker in the long run and hastens the day that China overtakes the US. Like death, it is inevitable, however, that’s no reason to hasten our demise. I respect how upfront they are about acting in their strategic interest, period. I’m not a big fan of the amorality they exercise in Africa but then again why are African countries cooperating with this? At the end of a the day I can’t want something for a group of people more than they want it (peace, prosperity) for themselves. I do my best not to knowingly fund genocide and the such. In the meantime I’m learning mandarin.

  15. Vanessa F. says:

    Hello Khadija,

    Awesome how you tied the movie Inception into this topic. I took in a matinee yesterday and decided to see it on a whim. Whoa! I think my mind was blown for the rest of the afternoon.

    re: African-American’s and news/political manipulation – In addition to what you have said, I am now hearing rumblings about some AA’s in support of a GOP-proposed review of 14th amendment as it concerns birthright citizenship. This discussion of a review/repeal of the 14th Amendment is beginning to get traction in the mainstream press (it is being tied into the larger debate of illegal immigration). I am concerned about any AA supporting any review of the constitutional amendment that made sure blacks were considered U.S. citizens after emancipation. {ice cold shivers}

    Re: News Sources – It is so important get your news from a variety of outlets. I recall a few years back when I convinced my mom to start watching the BBC news in addition to her regular news programs (we are a news junkie family). She was shocked,in a enlightened way, mentioning how the BBC is reporting stories U.S. news outlets will not touch.

    re: Afghanistan – I question if the U.S. will ever want to leave the region at this point since massive mineral deposits have been found recently:

    New York Times: U.S. Identifies Vast Mineral Riches in Afghanistan

    I haven’t read any heavy duty books on mid-east politics in a long time, my reading has focused on cultural matters. But I plan to learn much more in the coming months. However, if anyone in the reading audience hasn’t picked up the book “Confessions of an Economic Hitman” by John Perkins, please do. It will open your eyes to how political and economic outcomes of global south countries are controlled by Western policies.

    -Vanessa F.

  16. Oshun/Aphrodite says:

    Hello Khadija,

    “Those AAs who don’t have regular contact with large numbers of the AA underclass have NO clue about how dangerous and defective this demographic and their offspring are. And this demographic’s level of functioning is decreasing with each year. Let me give one example that most folks aren’t aware of/have never really considered:

    EVERY mentally retarded AA woman client or client’s daughter that I’ve ever encountered (who’s not living in some kind of institution) has been/is being long-term sexually exploited by some non-retarded man/men. Every. Single. One.

    These (in some cases, working and married) NON-retarded AA males often tell these retarded women to hand over their disability checks. And they do. Many of these women and girls have babies—year after year—by these various males who are exploiting them. Social services doesn’t always catch up with these exploited, retarded women with their first baby. They have to get caught doing something strange with their child to put themselves on the child welfare “radar.”

    Some of these retarded, long-term sexually exploited women don’t get noticed by child welfare until after their first few children are delayed and pregnant pre-teens/young teens themselves! By which point, these women typically have a brood of at least 4-5 children. Most of whom are delayed and/or emotionally disturbed themselves. Even if their children had a chance of being born with a normal IQ, what chance did they have of growing up to be functional—after being raised by this type of mother? Slim to none.

    Many of these retarded women are on drugs; others of them are mentally ill. A large number of these women are retarded, AND using drugs, AND mentally ill—all at once. These women are not going to have it together enough to use birth control.

    What in the world does anybody expect from the grandchildren birthed by these women’s also sexually exploited, pre-teen and teenage, delayed and retarded daughters?!!! How do these “we need raw numbers” Black folks think we’re going to build a functioning collective off of multiple generations of mentally ill, drug-marinated, developmentally delayed brains?

    AAs need to stop tripping about this “we need raw numbers to build our nation” madness. A nation composed of GENERATIONS of dysfunctional people is a burden and a disaster for the normal people among that group.”

    I was going to post something else, but got distracted by this…After reading the accounts that you have shared and some of the insights that Roslyn has shared…. I don’t know how you guys do it/have done it. I would be insane. You are right people have no idea. I am so sickened. I have some friends who have told some stories, and I have noticed some personality changes in them over time, but goodness! Stuff like this makes me wonder about humanity. Lord have mercy…

  17. Faith says:

    Good conversation. I also enjoyed Inception. I was reading the back story of how the director had to build his career and spend a decade working on the script to finally get a studio to agree to fund it. Christopher Nolan also works with his wife Emma Thomas who produces his films. I love the fact they get to be creative and successful – together.

    I don’t know if it’s the state of the world or personal circumstances but doesn’t it seem like people are eating, drinking and being merry right before it all goes to hell in a handbasket?

    It would be so much easier to talk about fashion or beauty or even a general political conversation but giving a serious evaluation to the state of black people as a collective isn’t favored and doesn’t make anyone exactly popular.

  18. Karen says:

    “*I must admit that I have not read any of the books published on the Iraq/Afghanistan or it’s key players. I do know that the puppet president of Afghanistan Hamid Kharzai was a rep for Unocal and was handpicked by the previous administration because he is a friend to the oil industry.”

    ^^I am going to add an additional perspective to the above comments.

    The U.S. has practiced THE SAME policy here at home. Most of the key posts regardless of which party is occupying the white house has been a revolving door for industry to set THEIR AGENDA. Whether it be economic advisors to FDA positions (currently the revolving door via Monsanto), it is the reality.

    Secondly, as the west and specifically the U.S. is addicted to oil, the powers that be will do anything and everything to secure their access to oil.

    Back to the topic, I read books, online newspapers of mostly international sources to get varied perspectives on the issues. From my perspective, it is unlikely to get a “balanced” view of the issues from typical U.S. MSM due to the media outlets being in a few hands and they are directly tied to the umbilical cord of the U.S. government and big business.

  19. Anilia says:

    I thoroughly enjoyed Inception and plan to see it again next week. When I left the theatre, I thought about how people’s minds are so easily breached by simply repeating the same ideas over and over, until their defenseless subconscious adopts these ideas. You don’t even need an architect or the other key players of the team. Just put it on the news, music videos, popular songs or movies and the idea will gain strength and spread.

    In terms of African Americans, this is why I don’t discuss most of my ideas with people. Black people (speaking for the ones I know) can’t even tell you why they believe the things they do, why they support certain idealogies, political parties and leaders, etc. I just use my breath to cool my tea.

    Societal inception isn’t limited to just black people, but I find it more widespread. I distrust the media so I don’t consume any form of the news, unless so many people are talking about an event and I’m curious about what’s causing all the buzz. I thought recently about consuming news from international outlets but I read so many blogs and websites as it is for personal and business development, that it doesn’t seem feasible for me to add more to that…

  20. lafemmenoir says:

    Rosalyn wrote: “All too often these days the children are the product of multi-generational mental illness/substance abuse, etc… It’s unfortunate, but it’s simply too great a risk.”

    Khadija wrote: “Exactly! Those AAs who don’t have regular contact with large numbers of the AA underclass have NO clue about how dangerous and defective this demographic and their offspring are. And this demographic’s level of functioning is decreasing with each year.”

    Cosign. These people have ceased to be functioning human beings, and have become things that will prey on you in a moments notice. Even little kids are looking for an opportunity to take advantage and steal or worse. Also, these kids are so sexualized at such a young age, that it is scary.

    Here’s my experience: A few years ago I left coporate america to teach in an inner city school in a major metropolitan area. It was the biggest rude awakening that I’d ~~~ever~~~ gotten. I have taught for three years, but I do not believe that I have the strength to do it anymore, so I have decided to return to corporate america.

    While teaching I have encountered multigenerational illiteracy, pre-teen pregnancy, pre-teen prostitution, multigenerational drug dealing family cartels, preteen & teenage pimps, & apathetic administrators.

    While teaching I have had or witnessed: student’s savagely attack each other causing severe injuries; parents coming onto school property to fight students, teacher’s and administrator’s; student’s attacking administrator’s & teacher’s and seriously injuring them (myself included); student’s have thrown things at my car and the car’s of other teacher’s and administrator’s as we leave the area to head home; student’s bringing guns onto school property to kill/injure other pre-teens; steal from each other and from teacher’s just because they could; administrator’s asking me to adjust a student’s grade after a parent threatened them with violence (from a family drug cartel); a student tell me to my face that he didn’t care that he was getting all F’s because he was going to pass due to social promotion (his mother endorsed this behavior because she was retarded, too).

    I have to say that I do believe that social promotions were the catalyst for the recent rapid decline in the AA community. It gave children an excuse to no longer try, it gave parent’s an excuse to detach themselves from their child’s educational responsibility, and it gave administrator’s an excuse to stop caring.

    There are so many more things that I can mention, but won’t because I am sure you already get the picture- you have dealt with these people for far longer than I have.

    I have never really lived in an all black community and I grew up in an all-white environment, so I never expected to encounter some of the things that I have encountered while teaching. It has been a learining lesson for me.

    When I told an associate that I was working with savages, she said that I was overdramatizing what I had experienced. After finding out where she grew up, I quickly realized that she’d grown up in the very area where I worked, so she was used to this kind of behavior! This was normal for her. I no longer consider her an associate because she isn’t thinking straight- I am not sure if she can.

    AA’s have de-evolved. We are going in the opposite direction of everyone else, and it scares the H*ll out of me. Seriously. And AA’s love to blame everyone else for their problems and never see that they are the root of all of their problems. Why? Because they are mentally impaired. Thank you both (Khadija & Rosalyn) for helping me to accept this truth, as painful as it may be. I had deluded myself into thinking that they were just being willful (fight the “man” or system), but it is SO much more than that. If your parent’s and grand parent’s are defective, then it stands to reason that their offspring will be defective too. It is true with most diseases and dysfunctions- you pass on your genes to your decendant’s and so forth.

    Finally, I bought your book Khadija and the section in the book that speaks about working in “helping” fields was invaluable to me. Initially, I was beating myself up for being scared of the children that I worked with and for thinking that they were feral savages. After reading the book & blog, I no longer have a problem with thinking that. Thanks! You can’t imagine the weight that was lifted off of my shoulders. I was thinking that I was being an elitist because I couldn’t identify or connect with them, but I have realized in order for me to do so, I would have to be damaged too. Your book offers wonderful, priceless, life-changing advice and I love the fact that you are unapologetic about what you have to say. I really admire that about you.
    Thank you for setting me straight.

  21. RevolutionaryAndJoyful,

    You asked, “I have another question as well. I’ve read that black and older foster children are often the hardest to place. Is this because people know about the dysfuntion that you mentioned before or because people don’t want to draw too much attention to themselves by caring for a child of a different race?”

    I talk about this in detail in the book chapter titled Yet Another Emerging, Disastrous Trend: Normalizing Single Adoption As ‘Plan B’ For Black Women Who Haven’t Married By 35. From what I’ve seen, there are different social service agency “tracks” that lead to certain types of children lingering or being quickly snapped up by adoptive parents:

    (1) Regardless of the mother’s race (Black, White, Latina, Asian, whatever), the lion’s share of the children languishing in foster care are Black men’s children.

    (2) Higher-caliber non-Black women who get unhappily pregnant by a BM tend to be quick to unload their unwanted, half-Black babies. These women make arrangements in advance with private, religious (Catholic and Jewish) social service agencies to have an adoptive family lined up for their babies as soon as they give birth. These private, religious agencies are the ones that infertile White couples gravitate toward. These particular babies don’t languish in the foster care system because they’re quickly snapped up by infertile White couples.

    The handful of higher-caliber Arab and Pakistani women I’ve seen who get pregnant by a BM tend to hide their pregnancies from their families, give birth in secret, and abandon their unwanted, half-Black babies in the hospital. They then allow their families to marry them off to men from their own ethnic group, and pretend that the whole sorry incident never happened.

    Hospitals have hospital social workers—who tend to know other social workers who work for private, religious social work agencies. So, they often alert their buddies to the new arrival of a so-called “biracial” baby. The baby is then steered toward the infertile White married couples who got their foster care license through the buddy’s private, religious agency. So, these babies don’t languish in the foster care system.

    (3) Infertile White couples prefer to adopt infants and toddlers in this order: White infants, (non-Black) Latino or Asian infants, and finally so-called “biracial” half-Black infants. The avenues for infertile White couples to purchase…err, adopt…White, (non-Black) Latino, and Asian babies from overseas is drying up for a variety of reasons. Much of which is about the horror stories of bad endings to these adoptions. Foreign countries are tightening up their laws about permitting foreigners to adopt their children.

    I don’t get the feeling that White foster parents are particularly hip to the dysfunction that I mentioned. It seems to me that they want children who look as close to them as possible. Which is NOT unreasonable, as far as I’m concerned. The only White couples I see that are willing to take in older, Black children are gay men. And this only applies to taking in older boys. Part of this might be due to their realization that these “leftover,” older children are the only type of children agencies will place with them. However, I’ve never seen gay male foster parents (whether they are Black or White, single or a couple) take in a girl. This is why I don’t trust the motives of the gay male foster fathers that I’ve seen. But, I digress . . . let me get back to your question.

    (4) AA women generally don’t give their babies up for adoption—even when they know they can’t/won’t take proper care of them. So, the children have to be involuntarily taken away from them when they’re older. By this later point in time, the child has already sustained damage by being raised by an abusive or neglectful mother. The dysfunction caused by this makes them extremely unappealing as prospective foster children. This makes them difficult to place. These are the children that are “left over” for single, BW to adopt.

    The same dynamic and end result applies to the half-Black babies of low-caliber non-Black women. Like the “Sheniquas,” these low-caliber non-Black women don’t make arrangements for their unwanted babies to be adopted. They have to be taken away from them later. After they’ve been neglected and abused.

    All of the above is why it’s generally older and racially Black children who languish in foster care.

    I’m not trying to discourage people from adoption—as long as they are FULLY informed of the realities involved in doing that. My concern is that most AAs have a romanticized view of the type of Black children that are in foster care and available to be adopted. This is because most AAs have a romanticized view of the AA underclass that produced most of these Black children in foster care.
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    ZooPath,

    You said, “In the meantime I’m learning mandarin.”

    That’s something to consider. {chuckling}
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    Hello, VanessaF.,

    Thank you for your kind words about the post; I truly appreciate it. You said, “I recall a few years back when I convinced my mom to start watching the BBC news in addition to her regular news programs (we are a news junkie family). She was shocked,in a enlightened way, mentioning how the BBC is reporting stories U.S. news outlets will not touch.”

    I had a similar revelation when I started regularly reading the international press online. I was amazed at the difference.
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    Oshun/Aphrodite,

    The situations I described are what comes to mind whenever I hear AAs talking that pro-forced-birth ideology. At first, I was shocked that nobody in these women’s families was calling the police on these retarded women’s so-called “boyfriends.” Which would be MY first reaction if I had a retarded female relative who was being sexually exploited. But then I remembered that this is another manifestation of the AA collective’s HIGH tolerance for the sexual exploitation of BW and Black girls.

    It is what it is…
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    Faith,

    You said, “I was reading the back story of how the director had to build his career and spend a decade working on the script to finally get a studio to agree to fund it. Christopher Nolan also works with his wife Emma Thomas who produces his films. I love the fact they get to be creative and successful – together.”

    I didn’t know that. Good for them!

    You said, “I don’t know if it’s the state of the world or personal circumstances but doesn’t it seem like people are eating, drinking and being merry right before it all goes to hell in a handbasket?”

    Americans in general seem to be alternating between frenzied denial of how dire the economic problems are, wishful thinking about how soon they believe the economy will recover, and scapegoating.
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    Karen,

    You said, “The U.S. has practiced THE SAME policy here at home. Most of the key posts regardless of which party is occupying the white house has been a revolving door for industry to set THEIR AGENDA. Whether it be economic advisors to FDA positions (currently the revolving door via Monsanto), it is the reality.”

    You’re right. What I find curious is how this has become normalized. On those rare occassions when this sort of revolving door has been publicized, people yawn. It’s quite strange, and reminds me of something that my parents mentioned a while ago. They said that previous generations of Americans were absolutely OUTRAGED by so much less (Watergate, etc.) than the recent government bad acts that most modern Americans shrug off.
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    Anilia,

    You said, “I thoroughly enjoyed Inception and plan to see it again next week.”

    Yep, Inception is one of the few movies that I’d be willing to see again at the theater. I can repeatedly watch movies once they come out on DVD, but I usually don’t attend repeat theater showings of movies—once is generally enough for me. {chuckling}

    You said, “When I left the theatre, I thought about how people’s minds are so easily breached by simply repeating the same ideas over and over, until their defenseless subconscious adopts these ideas.”

    This is why I have misgivings about the notion of watching Faux News in order to “monitor” what they’re saying. Most people have had the experience of strongly disliking a particular song when they first heard it on the radio. And then gradually feeling that it was not so terrible after hearing it repeated in heavy rotation on the radio. I’m concerned that there’s a similar dynamic to repeated exposure to the madness spewed on Faux News.
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    Lafemmenoir,

    You’re welcome! I’m so happy to hear something in the book was of good use for you! I say these things out loud because I’ve seen how AAs’ dishonest discourse has harmed so many sincere, thoughtful, well-meaning AA women. Somebody needs to tell the truth. And as I’ve heard many NOI minsters say in reference to the plain truth: people “can take it, or leave it alone.”

    I don’t want to end up quoting your entire comment, so I’ll just say that what you described is THE TRUTH. Thank you for telling the truth. I have several relatives who are/have been public school teachers in all-Black, inner-city schools, and they’ve mentioned similar experiences. I thank God Almighty that you’re getting out!

    I grew up in an all-Black middle-class neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago. My childhood experience growing up was a galaxy away from this modern AA underclass savagery. My parents grew up poor in the (segregated, all-Black) tenements that were later replaced by public housing. Their childhood experiences growing up in an all-Black slum were a galaxy away from this modern AA underclass savagery.

    This modern mess is NOT about poverty. It’s about depravity, savagery, and being totally out of touch with human norms. Truth be told, members of the modern AA underclass are generally not the same kind of humans as normal humans. They are mutants with generations of inbred, concentrated, structural defects. The neglected and abused AA crack babies of the 1980s have spawned their own low IQ, drug-exposed-in-utero children. And some of these kids have their own children—who are what? . . . generation number THREE of heavy-duty, genetically-concentrated dysfunction.

    These mutants are physically incapable of rational or abstract thoughts. Which is why they don’t learn from their experiences. They literally CAN’T connect any dots. And therefore, it’s very difficult for normal humans to communicate with them. This is because normal humans are capable of abstract thoughts that can anticipate future outcomes, and understand the causes of past outcomes.

    Bottom line: The reality of dealing with underclass, mutant AAs is not at all like most AAs want to pretend.

    Expect Success!

  22. I have another question as well. I’ve read that black and older foster children are often the hardest to place. Is this because people know about the dysfuntion that you mentioned before or because people don’t want to draw too much attention to themselves by caring for a child of a different race?

    I co-sign with everything Khadija said, I also think there’s reluctance to take an AA child due to the various issues surrounding race. This particularly impacts black male children in that they’re almost impossible to place in foster care as they’re seen as inherently dangerous.

    I would add that foster care in itself is enough to drive even the most sane, well-adjusted child crazy. It goes without saying that the longer a child is in the system, the crazier he/she will become, and this is in addition to any craziness the child had before entering foster care. When I trained foster parents I would explain that they should assume that any child we pick up has been sexually and physically abused as well as exposed to all manner of illegal and legal substances. Obviously social workers pick up these children and frequently have no way of knowing what the child’s issues are or what they might have been exposed to. Further, another crucial point is that we’re not dealing with old school drugs anymore. Even relatively innocuous drugs like marijuana are far more potent than in the past, and as it’s been mass-produced and often imported we have no way of knowing what type of insecticides might have been used on it. As we know, insecticides are neurotoxins. I’m sure I don’t have to explain the impact neurotoxins can have on a fetus in utero. Further, blacks tend to smoke the marijuana leaf, whereas whites tend to smoke the blossom or “bud.” The leaf is more likely to have been sprayed with insecticide. Typically spraying stops once the plant is in bud as that’s their top money maker and that’s when they start harvesting the plant.

    I also recently read a study that indicated a startling fact: If a woman smokes while she is pregnant, both her children and grandchildren may be more likely to have asthma as a result. Think about that for a moment and imagine how much more of an impact something like crack, or insecticides sprayed on marijuana could have. This quote is particularly chilling:

    Researchers suggest that when a pregnant woman smokes, chemicals from the tobacco may biologically damage her fetus. They hypothesize that smoke can affect the child in two ways: First, if the child is a girl, her eggs may be affected, which will in turn put her future children at risk; and second, the fetus’s mitochondria may be damaged through subtle changes in which genes are turned on or off-changes that may be transmitted through the maternal line as well.

    Now, think about all those families we know where the grandmother is in her thirties with a teen daughter who is now pregnant. The generations are coming along so quickly and reproducing the deviance on an unprecedented scale. Multiple generations of dual-diagnosed adults (mentally ill/substance abuser) are the source of this permanent underclass that Khadija speaks of, and they’re the only AAs who are reproducing. This situation is unsustainable and unsurvivable. Due to the economic crisis more and more states are beginning to shut down the social programs that kept these people alive. It’s only a matter of time before they begin preying on the rest of us in unprecedented numbers. It reminds me of a zombie movie, unfortunately this is science fact.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/05/050505224059.htm

    • Tracy says:

      What is even scarier about this is that usually, when drug abuse is happening, it isn’t just with one drug. If they are smoking weed, there is a high probability that they are also drinking and doing another drug – ususally crack cocaine or meth.

      So, you have a child that not only is affected by the drugs, but has Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. This affects not only their nervous system, but affects judgement – they have no sense right and wrong – and no sense of recall or remorse.

      Years ago, my mother had retired and decided that she wanted to raise foster children. She got a brother and sister that were not only abused, but showed signs of FAS (under-developed facial features, sudden violent outbursts). She lasted almost two years with them. Medication(ritalin) worked temporarily, but with all the constraints that foster care put on her disciplining them (and they knew the system well) no boundaries could be properly set.

      After the boy threw a knife at my mother – it missed her by inches and stuck in the wall – I packed them up and set them on DCFS door step. He was only EIGHT years old at the time…He is now 19 and has just been sentenced to 10-15 for armed robbery. He was mugging people in broad daylight, and accidentaly robbed an off duty policeman. I thank God everyday that he is locked up, because I don’t have to worry about him finding his way back to my mother…

      Right now, my quiet little boring town is being besieged by the 80’s babies. Gangs of them running around town, shooting at will. Since June of this year, there have been 17 homicides -nothing compared to other cities, but this was Mayberry 20 years ago. The faces of these feral thugs are all the same – young, damaged, FAS/crackbaby noses and foreheads. This is the future of the BC.

      It’s funny tho….police here are doing sweeps and making good progress in apprehending several suspects. A curfew was enforced for both children and adults in certain areas of town, and random traffic stops, even if you are riding a bicycle, are now common. Just two years ago, the city tried to do the very same thing when crime was just starting to rise. The BC, its leaders, and the Black church all cried “Racial Profiling” and “Police State” and asked the city to let them take care of the situation. Pretty much all that was done was a few candlelight vigils and barbeque’s – yep, nothing melts a criminal’s hard heart like a grilled Polish sausage sandwich. Oh, and they had one Meet and Greet with the Gang member leaders to ask them to pretty please stop wreaking havoc in their neighborhoods…

      But now that things are OFFICIALLY OUT OF CONTROL – well, the exact same folks are welcoming the formerly Gestapo tactics of the Police. Oh, they are bringing out cookies, happily going thru car searches, making sure that everybody is locked down tight when curfew hits. In short, we have our own Taliban – paid for by my ever rising local taxes. You think Illinois is broke….

      The ship is getting ready to sail – cant happen fast enough…

      Going to see Inception tonite!

    • lafemmenoir says:

      “Now, think about all those families we know where the grandmother is in her thirties with a teen daughter who is now pregnant. The generations are coming along so quickly and reproducing the deviance on an unprecedented scale. Multiple generations of dual-diagnosed adults (mentally ill/substance abuser) are the source of this permanent underclass that Khadija speaks of, and they’re the only AAs who are reproducing.”

      There is this really sad family that I know of through my second cousin. When I was 25, a friend of my cousin became a grandmother, she was 25 too, but a few months older than me. Her 12 yo daughter was having a baby. Now, guess who had a baby a year ago and will be having another come December this year? The woman’s granddaughter, that’s who. This woman isn’t even 40 yo and she is a great- grandmother. This is a true story. They live on the south side of Chicago near the lake. None of them have a HS diploma, but they have plenty of babies.

      Back on topic

      Thinking back to the movie Inception and what I have been told is the premise of the movie- thought implantation, makes me think of MTV. When MTV first started out they played mainly rock music. Then along came Fab 5 Freddie and Blondie collaborating on that song “Rapture”, remember? Next came Run-DMC and Aeorsmith collaborating on “Walk This Way” wearing their “hood” gear. This is important to note that they were wearing their “hood” gear because prior to Run DMC, other popular rappers at the time wore costumes or dressed up when they performed. Run DMC broke the mold in many ways, but their defiance lead the way for street culture to take over. Anyhoo, after Run DMC & Aerosmith collaborated, I wake up to find that there was a new show on MTV called, “Yo! MTV Raps”. Initially hosted by Fab 5 Freddie, and later hosted by Ed Lover & Dr. Dre, who to be honest, were mostly cooning on the show.

      I remember thinking back then that I couldn’t believe that they were playing rap on MTV and when NWA came out and got airplay on MTV, that act sounded the death knell for the black community. Ever since then, the youth have been bombarded with negativity and perversity.

      The management team over at MTV were/are crafty. They have been instrumental in shaping the minds of 2 generations, Gen X and Gen Y, and are now working on generation “savage”. They have force fed us homosexuality, misogony, overindulgence,extreme promiscuity, irresponsibility, and depravity, and we have lapped it up like starving beasts.

      MTV has been instrumental in getting the youth out to vote and has even told them who to vote for on a few occasions by their constant media blitzes on certain candidates. They are very crafty at planting thoughts into impressionable minds, and god help the person if they are deficient in any way, because MTV is actually controlling those individuals, literally. (I have had students reference things that were said on MTV shows like they were real facts! Mind you I have only ever taught 5-7th graders! Most of the shows on MTV/BET are inappropriate for young viewers.) I don’t think that MTV started out trying to shape the youth into zombies, I think that they stumbled upon it, but when they realized what a goldmine they had, they ran with it. They have become brazen. This also goes for BET, which is owned by MTV. Once MTV took over, all of the quality programming that remained, was cancelled and replaced with ghetto garbage. They don’t ever want them to see anything but the ghetto. Can you believe that BET was running The Wire reruns during hours that the youth are sure to be watching? What is the point of doing this if not to further a certain type of mindset? You see MTV didn’t pick up the series.

      MTV could have offered quality, educational pieces, yet it chooses to continually air low-class trash. Trash gets rating, which allows MTV/BET to charge manufacturers more to air commercials, which in manufacturer’s gladly pay more to air commercials around popular shows because it means more potential consumers of said product, which in turn brings in revenue for the stations. LOTS of revenue. All the while, their viewers are getting fatter and dumber watching a false reality, making the studio execs richer and richer.

      Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

      No one has ever successfully challenged MTV on their programming. No one. Not even when they recently aired a girl getting struck in the face, which by the way sent a message that it is OK for a man to strike a woman, despite the disclaimer that they put up at the beginning of the episode. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that they had a lobbyist or two on payroll. MTV(and it subsidiaries) are now experts at thought implantation. I am sorry for the rant. I just had to mention MTV’s role in helping to bring subculture to the forefront. Did anyone notice that they are running a show on Teen Moms? Most will say that this will discourage teens from getting pregnant, but I fear that it will have the opposite effect. I guess we will know in about 2 more years, right? I think that the last numbers that I saw were from 2008. I think the next numbers are due in 2 years. Am I right?

  23. halima says:

    Yes inception was/is a great movie, the kind I make a dash for. i think I watched it the day it came out here in the UK!

    [Khadija: I deleted a section of the comment here. It wasn’t quite a spoiler, but I feel that the fewer details people know about the movie walking into it, the more they’ll enjoy the experience of seeing the movie.]

    I guess for me, as i look around at black people I have this sense that we have a generation that have a ‘double unconsciousness’ or double insulation from civilized/normal layers above their current existence, because of things like (as you have noted) being born to ‘defective’ parents or children born to defective parents who had defective parents. In the film i suppose they would be described as ‘lost’.

    Like plants aim for the sun, formerly all black people knew of a better life or better possibilitites even if they couldnt achieve or get there, now i think this knowledge is somewhat removed and not just because of poverty but a devolution!

    In order to come back or get back, you have to be aware of the better place or former place, and you have to also know the portals (hard work, education, delayed gratification etc) to get there. well i guess there is now a generation of black people that both lack awareness of a better ‘layer’ let alone know where the portals are!

  24. Karen says:

    lafemmenoir,

    Having read your account, I do wish you Godspeed in leaving the “war zone”. Your account only furthers my belief that “Peace Walls” will be coming to these areas. There is no salvaging multi-generational genetic damage due to drug abuse or the behaviours that go with it.

    • lafemmenoir says:

      Thank you for your kind words Karen. I agree with you in regard to the upcoming need for citadels. We are going to be thrown back into medieval times….

  25. Roslyn,

    You said, “Now, think about all those families we know where the grandmother is in her thirties with a teen daughter who is now pregnant. The generations are coming along so quickly and reproducing the deviance on an unprecedented scale. Multiple generations of dual-diagnosed adults (mentally ill/substance abuser) are the source of this permanent underclass that Khadija speaks of, and they’re the only AAs who are reproducing.”

    Yep. What many AAs don’t understand is that THESE mutants are the ones who are birthing ever-increasing percentages of the AA population. Now, I’ve heard other bloggers refer to “‘their’ Black community” and how things are still normal within “‘their’ Black community.” What the people who say this don’t understand is the percentage of AA births that come from “‘their’ Black community” is decreasing. The AA mutants are the ones giving birth to an ever-increasing percentage of the AA population.

    This devolution is simply in terms of raw numbers, I’m not even talking about the amount of cultural influence each group has within the AA collective. The harsh reality is that the AA mutants are the ones who are—and have been—dictating popular AA culture for several decades now (since the advent of the hip-hop/rap garbage). The mutants set the AA agenda, not normal AA humans. Normal AAs from so-called “‘our’ Black community” have NO influence whatsoever on mass AA culture!

    In fact, people from “‘our’ Black community” take their cultural cues from the mutants. One example of this is the BM attorney/NAACP minion who recently invaded the comments section over at WAOD. Several audience members went to this BM attorney’s/NAACP minion’s blog and noted that he had XXL on his blogroll. I just went back over to Anson Asaka’s blog, “New Possibilities.” He has an entire section of his blogroll devoted to so-called Hip Hop Culture, listing XXL and 3 other hip-hop sources of garbage. That’s quite telling. On several levels.

    You said, “This situation is unsustainable and unsurvivable. Due to the economic crisis more and more states are beginning to shut down the social programs that kept these people alive. It’s only a matter of time before they begin preying on the rest of us in unprecedented numbers. It reminds me of a zombie movie, unfortunately this is science fact.”

    Exactly. This is why I and other BWE bloggers have been warning BW to get clear of Black residential areas.
    ______________________________________________________

    Halima,

    Yes, Inception is a great movie! I’m happy the director acquired the clout to get it made.

    You said, “I guess for me, as i look around at black people I have this sense that we have a generation that have a ‘double unconsciousness’ or double insulation from civilized/normal layers above their current existence, because of things like (as you have noted) being born to ‘defective’ parents or children born to defective parents who had defective parents. In the film i suppose they would be described as ‘lost’. “

    Oh yeah, many “new-school” Western Blacks are totally lost from normal, civilized lifestyles. There’s nothing in their lives that anchors or attaches them to normality in any way. This is because we’ve collectively engaged in several generations of denial and pretending that what is inferior is actually okay.

    You said, “Like plants aim for the sun, formerly all black people knew of a better life or better possibilitites even if they couldnt achieve or get there, now i think this knowledge is somewhat removed and not just because of poverty but a devolution!”

    Exactly.

    You said, “In order to come back or get back, you have to be aware of the better place or former place, and you have to also know the portals (hard work, education, delayed gratification etc) to get there. well i guess there is now a generation of black people that both lack awareness of a better ‘layer’ let alone know where the portals are!”

    Well, this is currently impossible because mass AA culture has re-defined up as down. With the creation of mutant AA hip-hop culture, AAs have elevated “the hood” OVER progress. “Keeping it real” has been elevated over making any discernable progress in one’s life. All the things that lead to elevation and progress such as education, speaking standard English, and so on have been devalued in modern AA culture.

    Genetically normal AAs are ashamed to be normal humans! They are embarrassed to be literate and smart. They are ashamed to be capable of rational, abstract thought. In short, they are ashamed of their humanity, and want to be more like feral savages. This is why they feel the need to imitate defective AA mutants. All because they want “to be down with” the mutants!

    This now-entrenched cultural pattern (normal AA humans being ashamed of their normality, and feeling the need to imitate the mutants) does not bode well for the AA collective’s future…

    This is why any AA woman who wants to survive and thrive must get clear of the AA mutants. ASAP.

    Expect Success!

  26. Nysee says:

    Dear Khadija,
    I am making it a point to have every Black Woman read this blog. I know that I have escaped the Matrix and want others to do likewise. I can not control their reactions or thinking, but I feel that when you have been lied to and you are told to accept it as Bible, mean while people are perishing, I am going to do my part. At least they can see what has been going on and for them to stop the madness at least in their live so they will not destroy it. You and everyone on this blog are very educated as well as compassinate and I do believe it is many more like us but we are now calling evil good and good evil and again BW are the one being destroyed and we do not have a safety net like Evia said to allow this to go on any further.
    Our daughters are being destoyed along with nieces,aunts and some grandmothers who are trying to relive their youth instead of parting their great wisdom in to the future generations.
    Sorry for the long post but I wll enlighten other BW,so they can have rich and fulfiing lives.
    Keep up the outstanding work you are doing.

  27. Rebecca says:

    Hi Khadija,

    I rarely ever comment, but I figure that as a black Catholic I can uniquely comment on the pro-life issue.

    Going into college, I would say that I was “ignorantly pro-life.” What I mean by that is that as someone raised within a racially diverse, middle to upper-class all-Catholic setting, I had never really seen the “pregnant Sheniqua” phenomenon up close and personal.

    In college I had to do some community service as part of a theology class I was taking, and my professor (a priest), told me about a Catholic crisis pregnancy center in downtown LA that needed volunteers…and boy let me tell you, the work I did with the center revolutionized the way I thought about the abortion issue. I learned two primary lessons:

    1. You are quite right in saying that Catholics are not just pro-life, but we have a VERY well built infrastructure to deal with unwanted children. (You may not know this, but there are entire religious orders of nuns completely dedicated to matching children with families.) I get REALLY frustrated with non-Catholic pro-lifers, especially black pro-lifers, who do not seem to grasp that just telling someone to skip the abortion appointment is NOT ENOUGH. In fact, in my opinion, it’s cruel and irresponsible.

    2. When offered adoption resources—and by resources I mean FREE services to match birth mothers with in-tact, usually affluent families—Black women rarely ever willfully choose adoption. I overheard a counselor speaking to a black mother whose teen daughter was pregnant, and when the counselor tried to talk to her about adoption options, she scoffed and said something to the effect of, “the baby is her mistake and she has to deal with it.” Khadija, my mouth dropped open. Instead of exploring another option for the situation, this woman wanted to punish her daughter.

    As someone raised as a Catholic, adoption is not foreign to me at all. I have friends who are adopted, and my best friend is preparing to adopt with her husband. But of course, they are Catholic as well.

    There seems to be a stigma surrounding adoption in the BC. The only adopted black children I personally know of were taken by the state and adopted out of the system. There are also a few bi-racial kids I know of that were privately adopted from non-black birth mothers.

    On a separate point, I caution against this phenomenon of single black women adopting older children. My mother’s best friend adopted her oldest daughter as a baby—she grew up just fine and is now attending college on a scholarship. However, my mother’s best friend just finalized the adoption of two more girls ages 8 and 9—my mom told me she had to take two weeks off of work because of the stress of the girls’ behavioral problems. These girls have 3 other siblings, spread out all over the country.

    It is sad to me that while my mom’s friend should be enjoying her oldest daughter’s successes, she’s busy taking the other two girls to therapy multiple times a week and can barely leave the house for fear of tantrums in public.

    I am an only child who just graduated from college—my mom was considering either adopting/fostering a child now that I’m out of the house, but I don’t think she’s going to do it anymore as she hasn’t mentioned it in months.

  28. LaJane Galt,

    You’re welcome!

    Yes, Washington, D.C, is the AA Ground Zero. In many ways, large and small.

    You said, “It is usually some guy screaming about we need to get our numbers up and breed…with no thought about the current situation that we are in. The goal seems to be to outbreed Latinos and maintain some sort of “status.”

    . . . They don’t seem to understand, those babies aren’t the mestizo babies that are loved by mostly intact family units and tolerated, or even celebrated, by a [powerful] liberal, white, portion of the country.

    College students won’t learn their “language”, or study in their country (the hood), or learn their “customs”. Grad students and non-profit/NGO types won’t work at, start or fund community centers to engage them, keep them off the streets, give them health care.

    Yuppies won’t go to their restaurants, savor their cuisine, wear their handicrafts, travel to their “lands”. In my city, yuppie folks go to Honduras all the time. They will never cross the river (that’s how we refer to the Anacostia)! (FTR, I don’t either. What for?)

    Yuppies even prefer that they raise their kids now (cheaper, learn Spanish) and are even marrying them (it can be advantageous). Yuppies don’t mind them breeding and living (as families) in the neighborhood because this is a palatable, safe, fun, sort of diversity that harkens back to the ol’ Peace Corps days (note, this sort of thing is more popular with whites from Wonder Bread parts of the US). I note that Teh gangs do not f-x with Teh whitefolks. Not.at.all. Now the black “crews” mess with all…and get dealt with…systematically.”

    There are many, many confused AAs. The progressive activist types of AAs don’t understand that Latinos are our rivals, and not our allies or even friends. We’ve never had any true allies. We’re too stupid to have true allies. What we have are a series of people, including Pres. Obama—who is half-continental African and half-White—he’s NOT part of the AA bloodline or heritage, who have gone far riding OUR dead civil rights martyrs’ coattails.

    And the “we need raw numbers” screamers don’t understand that quality always trumps quantity. That’s why smaller groups of more functional people (like Jews and White South Africans) have always had either disproportionate influence over, or outright dominated, larger masses of less functional people.

    Meanwhile, the real deal is as you described it when you said, “…while the National Association of Other People Chasers is wasting old black ladies’ dollars…and the vestiges of our ever-dwindling collective political capital (as I’ve explained, white guilt has a new focus).”

    You said, “I must say, the sheeplism is depressing. After watching AAs watch Obama (with the NAACP’s help) throw Sherrod under the bus, deflect from the real problem and watch the Senate snatch what was due from farmers..I’ve given up.”

    I would humbly suggest that you simply shift focus instead of giving up. It’s what I did when I realized that the AA collective was OVER.

    You said, “Your point about security explains, in part, Hamas. Whoever can keep the hospital going, perform blood transfusions, make sure babies are born will get allegiance. It is a basic fact.”

    Yes, and another pattern I’ve noticed is that it’s generally only the religious groups or extremist political groups (like armed Communists or Maoists) whose members are willing to do whatever it takes to keep the hospital going (including risking their lives to confront criminals). The level of commitment involved in joining the average neighborhood association is NOT enough to bring safety and order to a society (or subculture). Nobody’s going to risk their lives to implement the neighborhood watch’s agenda.
    ____________________________________________________________

    Tracy,

    You said, “After the boy threw a knife at my mother – it missed her by inches and stuck in the wall – I packed them up and set them on DCFS door step. He was only EIGHT years old at the time…He is now 19 and has just been sentenced to 10-15 for armed robbery. He was mugging people in broad daylight, and accidentaly robbed an off duty policeman. I thank God everyday that he is locked up, because I don’t have to worry about him finding his way back to my mother…”

    Ooh, I also thank God for this.

    You said, “Right now, my quiet little boring town is being besieged by the 80’s babies. Gangs of them running around town, shooting at will. Since June of this year, there have been 17 homicides -nothing compared to other cities, but this was Mayberry 20 years ago. The faces of these feral thugs are all the same – young, damaged, FAS/crackbaby noses and foreheads. This is the future of the BC.”

    Thank you for saying this out loud. I didn’t want to be the one to mention how so many of the “Sheniquas'” children are obviously defective. You can often spot them by the facial deformities (and oddly-placed ears) that many of them have. I didn’t want to be accused of making mockery of these unfortunate creatures. But the situation is what it is. And sadly yes, the mutants are the future of the AA collective.

    You said, “The BC, its leaders, and the Black church all cried “Racial Profiling” and “Police State” and asked the city to let them take care of the situation.”

    {loud gales of laughter at the stupidity involved in this}

    You said, “Pretty much all that was done was a few candlelight vigils and barbeque’s – yep, nothing melts a criminal’s hard heart like a grilled Polish sausage sandwich. Oh, and they had one Meet and Greet with the Gang member leaders to ask them to pretty please stop wreaking havoc in their neighborhoods…”

    {more laughter because I knew this sort of foolishness would be the local AA leaders’ “great plan” for dealing with the internal depraved savages: (1) symbolic pantomimes of taking action—the ineffective candlelight vigils, and (2) begging the savages to act right}

    You said, “But now that things are OFFICIALLY OUT OF CONTROL – well, the exact same folks are welcoming the formerly Gestapo tactics of the Police. Oh, they are bringing out cookies, happily going thru car searches, making sure that everybody is locked down tight when curfew hits.”

    Yep, there’s nothing quite like immediate physical danger to help focus people’s thoughts. {chuckling}

    Enjoy the movie!
    __________________________________________________________

    Nysee,

    Thank you so much for your kind words and support; I truly appreciate it!
    __________________________________________________________

    Hi Rebecca!

    Thanks for de-lurking! 🙂

    You said, “You are quite right in saying that Catholics are not just pro-life, but we have a VERY well built infrastructure to deal with unwanted children. (You may not know this, but there are entire religious orders of nuns completely dedicated to matching children with families.)”

    I didn’t know about the religious order of nuns dedicated to that task. {martial arts bow in salute to their efforts} I admire that level of serious institutional planning and action. This is why I can respect (while disagreeing with) the position of the sincere, pro-life Catholics.

    You said, “I get REALLY frustrated with non-Catholic pro-lifers, especially black pro-lifers, who do not seem to grasp that just telling someone to skip the abortion appointment is NOT ENOUGH. In fact, in my opinion, it’s cruel and irresponsible.”

    It IS cruel and irresponsible on their part. That’s why I have a dismissive attitude about their pro-forced-birth bleatings.

    You said, “When offered adoption resources—and by resources I mean FREE services to match birth mothers with in-tact, usually affluent families—Black women rarely ever willfully choose adoption.”

    This is what I’ve also observed. There are a couple of things going into this: (1) Echoes of memories from slavery of babies being taken away. Resulting in the knee-jerk reaction of “I’m going to keep my baby at all costs.” Unfortunately, it’s the baby who pays the price for this. (2) A selfish, ego-driven desire to tell themselves and the people around them that they’re “fighting for their babies.” Again, it’s the baby who pays for this.

    You said, “Khadija, my mouth dropped open. Instead of exploring another option for the situation, this woman wanted to punish her daughter.”

    This desire to punish women and girls for unmarried sex is what’s really motivating a lot of the pro-forced-birth advocates. You can tell that this is their true motivation from many of the things they say about various sexuality-related issues.

    You said, “On a separate point, I caution against this phenomenon of single black women adopting older children.”

    You already know that I co-sign that point of view. If you can get children when they’re babies and toddlers, the odds are better of being able to counteract the damage that they’ve already suffered. The bottom line is that it’s very, very, VERY difficult (and often impossible) to turn a “ruined” child around. This is why there are many failed adoptions that end up back in child welfare, and back in the courts.

    Expect Success!

  29. Felicia says:

    Yep. What many AAs don’t understand is that THESE mutants are the ones who are birthing ever-increasing percentages of the AA population. Now, I’ve heard other bloggers refer to “‘their’ Black community” and how things are still normal within “‘their’ Black community.” What the people who say this don’t understand is the percentage of AA births that come from “‘their’ Black community” is decreasing. The AA mutants are the ones giving birth to an ever-increasing percentage of the AA population

    This is true Khadija. And IMO deep down they know that they’re living in a bubble and that their personal circumstances don’t in any way shape or form compare to the majority of what’s going on out there amongst African-Americans of CHILD BEARING age.

    It’s usually (older 50 and up) who want to pretend things aren’t as bad as they actually are. This older populations is more likely to have grown up with two normal parents and be “old school” (normal) in terms of values and outlook on life.

    This group (our parents generation if we’re in our 40’s) of middle/upper-middle class/wealthy black folks stay in their bubble because it’s too depressing to think that what we’re all saying in the BWE network is true. These would be normal African-Americans who grew up pre-civil rights.

    It’s too shocking and depressing I think for them to fully realize that almost everything has gone to pot.

    After everything we’ve been through as a people. We’re not one people anymore. Instead, we’re a people DIVIDED and for GOOD reason.

    Many of the younger generation of blacks – post CRAP “music” – are degenerate and honestly don’t know anything normal existed before, therefor we seem like “abnormal haters” to them. PLUS like you said, the young generation are the MOST likely to have permanent psychological problems due to neglect, drugs, etc… Due to being unloved and unwanted really.

    It is VITAL that the whole ugly truth of the current situation in the damaged black construct is laid BARE so that black women who have retained their normality can see it for what it really is (an UNhealthy place in body and spirit to reside in physically or psychologically) and FLEE.

    The ONLY choice is to start evaluating ALL things, and especially men, NOT through a racial lens but looking at CHARACTER only.

    QUALITY in ALL aspects of life. ESPECIALLY when it comes to future HUSBANDS (NOT “baby daddies” SMH) and fathers to vulnerable children who need protection.

    Men with these positive quality traits are MOST likely to be found OUTSIDE of the black construct.

    Amongst white, asian, and other non black populations. This is just a fact.

  30. LaJane Galt says:

    There are many, many confused AAs. The progressive activist types of AAs don’t understand that Latinos are our rivals, and not our allies or even friends. We’ve never had any true allies. We’re too stupid to have true allies.

    Giirrrrlll I went through that phase. I SMDH and laugh thinking about the immigrants’ rights marches I attended. As I stated in my lil diatribe before…I KNOW those types 🙂

    You’re right about shifting focus. It’s a constant struggle. Out of the country in 3 days woo hooo!

    Felicia~

    It’s usually (older 50 and up) who want to pretend things aren’t as bad as they actually are. This older populations is more likely to have grown up with two normal parents and be “old school” (normal) in terms of values and outlook on life.

    This group (our parents generation if we’re in our 40’s) of middle/upper-middle class/wealthy black folks stay in their bubble because it’s too depressing to think that what we’re all saying in the BWE network is true. These would be normal African-Americans who grew up pre-civil rights.

    I hear you. I’m in my mid-30s, so my parents are the ol’ school types who came from the functional community of yore. They think I’m incredibly pessimistic and negative. Mom is a bit more understanding since she taught. I watched her shift from “save the bm” to throwing up her hands at the generational dysfunction that Roslyn described. Dad doesn’t quite see it, as his negative frame of reference was Southern white senators on tv and said neighborhood of yore. While having that background, I was exposed to kids who were bussed with the “act black” pregnant at 12 lifestyle. They couldn’t believe I was a virgin at 13!!!! It was so alien to me. Our generation was bombarded with this distortion of blackness on one hand, but on the other, the older folks were saying things are all good! At the same time, I observed a general trend of older black women (40s-50s now) who enabled (“ebonics” is a real language), excused (bm have it harder than we do) or tried to pray/magically think things away (Jesus, Oprah, Iyanla, Essence). So any time that I observed or criticized the collective’s demise, I get accused of “not liking your people” or “being elitist”. This generation was/is stuck on enforcing the groupthink (which does have historical reasons), without really examining what the group is or is dominated by.

    Oshun~

    I am so sickened. I have some friends who have told some stories, and I have noticed some personality changes in them over time, but goodness!

    Someone told me my personality has changed too. I suppose so, if they mean my observations, concerns and reactions. I’ve been perceiving bits and pieces of the destruction my whole life…not quite knowing what to do with it…because I no longer have a child’s naivete, it can be very difficult to experience.

  31. We also need to keep in mind that housing projects are being torn down. Here in Atlanta we don’t have any housing projects left. In-town property values are much too high to use this way. The people are being given Section 8 vouchers and of course, they’re gravitating primarily to black neighborhoods. Nothing ruins a working class or even middle-class neighborhood like Section 8. One county here, Clayton county used to be a fairly reasonable place to live. In less than a decade it’s been destroyed by this practice. You might have heard of it; it’s the first school system to lose accreditation in the country. Our governor is an absolute idiot, but he did send in consultants to help them when they were threatened with loss of accreditation. The consultants quit in disgust and said point blank that they couldn’t work with the school board. I’ve been a consultant and quitting means you don’t get paid. Imagine what a nightmare they must have encountered to give up what was probably a six-figure pay check.

    It’s not enough anymore to move into an middle class black community, because it seems there’s always someone willing to rent to the Section 8 folks. Affluent black communities in Atlanta are developing HOAs more restrictive than any I’ve ever heard of. Homeowners are restricted from even having guests for more than a few days. (Obviously this is because of the proclivity even some well-to-do blacks have for letting their criminally inclined relatives more in with them when they get in trouble.)

    I also noticed a disturbing trend on my roadtrip up the east coast to New Hampshire in late July. I literally could count the number of black people I saw on one hand. Even the staff in the hotels were either white, Hispanic or “racially ambiguous.” No I wasn’t expecting to see black folk in New Hampshire, though I was pleasantly surprised to meet a black family who just opened a cupcake shop in a VERY exclusive community. I didn’t even see black people on rest stops or even in restaurants. Clearly we’re still congregating in urban areas, though I would’ve thought that would’ve been Lesson #1 from Katrina: Stop concentrating in urban areas. It’s too easy to pretend you don’t exist. Anyway, the dearth or black people was quite chilling.

  32. SweetSoulSister says:

    Khadija said:
    Many of these retarded women are on drugs; others of them are mentally ill. A large number of these women are retarded, AND using drugs, AND mentally ill—all at once.

    Me:
    This seriously sounds like one of those bad black movies I always hear about.

    I am one of those people you speak of who has no contact with the AA underclass and if these chilling posts are the tip of the iceberg, I’m glad I don’t. I come to this blog because I learn so much stuff. Stuff I never even wanted to know, stuff that makes me think, stuff that shocks the hell out of me, stuff I never knew about.

    I cannot believe the parents of these mentally challenged people throw them away like that. I know AA’s throw their daughters under the bus constantly but, I had no idea they even did it to the ones who cannot help themselves. I’m utterly disgusted.

    Khadija said:
    WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION FROM?

    I usually read international newspapers online. Aftenposten from Norway(I translate it to English since they’ve stopped the english edition), The Sydney Morning Herald, The London Times, The Guardian, I listen to NPR, I read HuffPo and The Daily Kos,as well. I mainly read foreign newpapers because the U.S. infotainment media is not credible.

    Do you watch Fox “News”? If so, why in the world would you watch the equivalent of Pravda?

    No. I used to watch it sometimes but the lies became more and more inflammatory to the point where I could not laugh and make fun of them anymore. They are on some other sh** at Fix Noise. Their reality is so far from the truth and paranoid that I really think they could get Barack Obama assassinated. I think they should be held accountable for the lies they tell and the climate they’ve created in this country.

    Do you have more than one source of information?

    Yes. See my “where do you get your info” answer.

    Do you have any international sources of information?

    Ditto.

    Have you bothered to read a single book about any of today’s current events? Such as a biography of any of the key players in Iraq or Afghanistan (for example, Muqtada al-Sadr)?
    No but I just recently purchased Afghanistan: A Military History From Alexander The Great To The War Against The Taliban by Stephen Tanner. I am also more than a little familiar with some of the players in Afghanistan and Iraq. Alot of what I know, I learn from the media sources I listed above.

  33. SweetSoulSister says:

    I forgot to add, I make time to watch Rachel Maddow on MSNBC.

  34. I’ve been thinking some more about Lafemmenoire’s comment. Here’s why I’m NOT apologetic about telling the truth, particularly as relates to the AA underclass:

    (1) Black public service is mostly balanced on AA women’s backs. BM professionals generally don’t go into helping sorts of jobs and careers. BM are generally not spending their work lives trying to uplift downtrodden AAs—they’re too busy pursuing their own bliss (which is their right). AA women need to catch the hint and do the same.

    (2) AA women’s service in the helping fields is not appreciated or valued. One of many examples is AAs’ widespread hobby of slandering the legions of BF public school teachers, and scapegoating them for their own failures as parents.

    (3) AA women in the helping fields deserve to receive better than the disrespect, stress, AND often physical danger they get in exchange for the use of their talents, skills, and hard work.

    (4) It’s time for AA women to work where their work will be appreciated, valued and rewarded. This generally WON’T be found while working among, or servicing, other AAs.

    (5) Over the years, a peculiar, suicide-martyrdom professional culture has developed among far too many AA women in the helping professions. I’ve heard about this from the public school teachers I know:

    A dangerous, self-defeating assumption has been encouraged to spread among AA women teachers that anyone who’s complaining about the savage students and parents:

    (a) must not “be on the case;” and

    (b) must not “have it going on” {imagine several finger snaps}

    (c) and therefore must be incompetent.

    Too many sincere AA women teachers hold themselves up to the utterly false images presented in the romanticized “teacher in the hood” movies like Stand And Deliver, Dangerous Minds, etc.

    It’s generally taboo for AA women in the helping fields to even mention or, God forbid, complain about the details that I’ve been mentioning about the AA underclass. It’s okay to share a few sanitized “war stories,” but it’s not okay to plainly state the horrific details of what mutant AA underclass members are really like. If you give serious weight to the madness they display, then many of your AA work peers will say that you’re “exaggerating” the gravity of the mess or how widespread it is. Which is what Lafemmenoir’s acquaintance did.

    All of the above is why I’m blunt in my in my language about these particular matters. I want more AA women to know that it’s okay to acknowlege the truth about their experiences. By loudly and publicly telling the disgusting details of what the AA mutants are actually doing, I want more AA BW to feel free to walk away from worrying about these creatures. The same way AA men have always felt free to walk away from dealing with these mutants. BM have never felt any obligation to be bothered trying to help such creatures.

    Like I said, Black public service is singularly balanced on AA BW’s backs. It’s a burden that we need to lay down.

    Expect Success!

    • T says:

      I am so glad you bring this issue forth. You can count me among the AA women whose efforts and KSA’s (knowledge, skills, and abilities) were being used to help other AA’s get a leg up in life. What this ended up being, for me, was an experiment in disaster. The help that you end up giving gets thrown in your face, and when you have not helped them to their satisfaction, they want to call radio and television stations to get their case heard. After awhile, that starts to stress a person out. Instead of devoting my time and energy to the nonsense, I decided that furthering my self-interests would be much better and less stressful for me than trying to help AA’s who were more interested in pimping the system than earning an honest, clean living.

  35. Felicia,

    You said, “It is VITAL that the whole ugly truth of the current situation in the damaged black construct is laid BARE so that black women who have retained their normality can see it for what it really is (an UNhealthy place in body and spirit to reside in physically or psychologically) and FLEE.”

    100% co-sign.
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    LaJane Galt,

    You said, “Giirrrrlll I went through that phase. I SMDH and laugh thinking about the immigrants’ rights marches I attended. As I stated in my lil diatribe before…I KNOW those types”

    That’s the same way I know the Black Nationalist types 🙂 I used to be among their ranks before I woke up. It deeply angers many BM Nationalist types (and their adoring “Ikettes”) that I can quote “chapter and verse” from their favorite Black Nationalist patriarchs (such as Elijah Muhammad’s Message To The Blackman and Haki Madhubuti’s books) to demonstrate how hypocritical most of these self-proclaimed Nationalist men are. And how their actions have totally fallen short of their rhetoric.

    You said, “You’re right about shifting focus. It’s a constant struggle. Out of the country in 3 days woo hooo!”

    YES!!!
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    Roslyn,

    You said, “The people are being given Section 8 vouchers and of course, they’re gravitating primarily to black neighborhoods. Nothing ruins a working class or even middle-class neighborhood like Section 8.”

    That’s what happened to my all-Black middle-class childhood neighborhood. The wholesome, happy atmosphere I grew up in was murdered by invading Section 8 mutants.
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    SweetSoulSister,

    You said, “This seriously sounds like one of those bad black movies I always hear about. I am one of those people you speak of who has no contact with the AA underclass and if these chilling posts are the tip of the iceberg, I’m glad I don’t.”

    Yes, be glad of that.

    You said, “No. I used to watch it sometimes but the lies became more and more inflammatory to the point where I could not laugh and make fun of them anymore. They are on some other sh** at Fix Noise. Their reality is so far from the truth and paranoid that I really think they could get Barack Obama assassinated.”

    That’s what they’ve been encouraging with their barely-veiled code words, “dog whistles,” and eliminationist rhetoric. David Neiwert of the excellent blog Orcinus did several posts about eliminationism. From his 7/20/2005 post, The Elimination Game:

    What, really, is eliminationism?

    It’s a fairly self-explanatory term: it describes a kind of politics and culture that shuns dialogue and the democratic exchange of ideas for the pursuit of outright elimination of the opposing side, either through complete suppression, exile and ejection, or extermination.

    . . . Rhetorically, it takes on some distinctive shapes. It always depicts its opposition as simply beyond the pale, and in the end the embodiment of evil itself — unfit for participation in their vision of society, and thus in need of elimination. It often depicts its designated “enemy” as vermin (especially rats and cockroaches) or diseases, and loves to incessantly suggest that its targets are themselves disease carriers. A close corollary — but not as nakedly eliminationist — are claims that the opponents are traitors or criminals, or gross liabilities for our national security, and thus inherently fit for elimination.

    And yes, it’s often voiced as crude “jokes”, the humor of which, when analyzed, is inevitably predicated on a venomous hatred.

    But what we also know about this rhetoric is that, as surely as night follows day, this kind of talk eventually begets action, with inevitably tragic results.

    While in recent years much of this activity tends to be relegated to fringe behavior, it’s disturbing to observe this trend treading out of the fringes and increasingly back into the mainstream, as it did in the Flathead Valley — and moreover, as it is doing on a national mainstream level. It’s worth remembering, of course, that there have been many instances when eliminationism was very much part of mainstream American culture, and there’s no reason to believe it couldn’t happen again.

    Expect Success!

  36. T,

    You said, “You can count me among the AA women whose efforts and KSA’s (knowledge, skills, and abilities) were being used to help other AA’s get a leg up in life. What this ended up being, for me, was an experiment in disaster. The help that you end up giving gets thrown in your face, and when you have not helped them to their satisfaction, they want to call radio and television stations to get their case heard. After awhile, that starts to stress a person out.”

    That’s the thing—AAs don’t respond appropriately to the other Black folks who help them. It’s very similar to how AA consumers don’t and generally won’t respond appropriately to visibly Black-owned businesses. It’s not about quality of services, it’s about AAs’ internal problems of hating on (non-rapping, non-basketball bouncing) Blacks who are more successful than they are.
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    Lafemmenoir,

    I share your disgust with most American commercial tv, such as MTV and BET in particular. And I would compare these stations and their programming to drug dealers. However, as much as I loathe drug dealers (of all types, be it chemical or visual or sonic “crack”), I ultimately blame the consumers.

    What AAs never want to deal with is the fact that all of these scenarios are the result of supply-demand dynamics. AAs’ whining about how “we don’t bring the drugs into this country” does NOT excuse or explain our insatiable appetite for drugs. Once a potential consumer is initially presented with a product, their initial response is their own responsibility. For people like me, it doesn’t matter who’s flying what substance into the country. It wouldn’t matter if a dealer stacked a pile of cocaine (or whatever else) as high as my ears near me. I’ve never had any interest in that sort of thing, so I’ve never been a part of any drug dealer’s market.

    With most negative things, Satan doesn’t like to have to kick in the door to a person’s life. It’s similar to the vampire myth—with the most common forms of evil, a person has to invite and welcome that evil into their lives. Which gets back to the consumer’s freely-chosen, initial response to the (Satanic) peddler. When the consumer makes that initial choice to respond favorably to poison, and reward the peddler who offers them poison—that’s on them.

    I feel the same way about MTV, BET, etc. MTV started up around the end of high school/beginning of college for me. I remember their initial refusal to play music videos by Black artists, including Miachael Jackson. [What I vaguely remember from that era is that David Bowie—who had some big hits out at that time, like “Let’s Dance” and “Blue Jean” threatened to have his music videos taken off that station unless they played Black artists’ videos.]

    As a teenage consumer, I rejected the early rap/hip-hop cr*p. So did most of my friends. I recall an incident from high school where my boyfriend and his male friends were loudly grumbling about some c/rap record that was on: “This stuff they’re rapping about is terrible…and people want to shake their rumps to THAT?” We also didn’t spend a lot of time watching the garbage that was offered to us as teenage consumers. In fact, I and my friends weren’t like so many modern AA teens who spend 4-5 or more hours a day watching tv. We were too busy with our hobbies, and too busy doing FREE things out in the world (like riding our bikes along the lakefront, etc.).

    A healthy teen is NOT going to find certain types of stupid and degrading things appealing.

    I feel that only weak minds respond favorably to mess like BET, MTV, and the rest. AAs have apparently raised several generations of weak-minded teens and adults. Back to supply-demand dynamics: If nobody responds to the peddler’s offers, then the peddler goes out of business. The end.

    Expect Success!

  37. T says:

    What I understand inception to be is exactly how you worded-even before I read the post all the way through. Eventually, inception leads to extermination. All it takes is for one powerfully suggestive idea or concept to spread like wildfire among people of undiscerning, uneducated minds, and it’s on….

  38. Beverly says:

    Look at these stats on fetal alcohol syndrome:

    Incidence (annual) of Fetal alcohol syndrome: 0.9 per 10,000 births (Caucasians); Asians 0.3, Hispanics 0.8, African Americans 6.0, and Natve Americans 29.9 (NWHIC).

    http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/f/fetal_alcohol_syndrome/stats.htm

  39. Nysee says:

    I will like to add that many of the helping fields such as nursing where the BW usually do the grunt work and the supervisor is usually White or non-Black. I want to say that nursing is very physical and if any of you are in the health care field like myself , go back to school which is what I am doing. Also, get your job to fund as much as possible. See if they tuition reimbursement and go get a degree or certificate that way you will have the credetials to move up or out.

  40. T,

    You said, “Eventually, inception leads to extermination. All it takes is for one powerfully suggestive idea or concept to spread like wildfire among people of undiscerning, uneducated minds, and it’s on….”

    That’s the bottom line. One can observe this process with the AA collective, which has become a SELF-exterminating permanent underclass in this country.
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    Beverly,

    Those statistics are outrageous, but not unexpected (unfortunately).
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    Nysee,

    That’s a good plan; it’s what one of my coworkers did. She’s a former nurse who is now an attorney (she makes doctors very nervous during cross-examinations because of her medical knowledge—LOL!).

    Expect Success!

  41. pioneervalleywoman says:

    Greetings, Khadija!

    I’m late to the discussion, because I was out of town.

    What news sources do I look at? A mix of establishment liberal sources, ie., NYT, Wash. Post, CNN, along with conservative ones, NOT Faux news, ie., WSJ, National Review (where Dalrymple has a regular column) and some alternative sources on the left, like Alternet.

    I found it interesting the discussion of adoption and which children African American women, primarily single/divorced women, are adopting.

    If that isn’t an example of “Inception”, I don’t know what is. Where did it come from? The same source of the “Save Alla Our People” mindset, as you have been speaking of it–highly functioning black women who have not married (because of dysfunctional black community dynamics) looking to adopt rather than encouraging them to find highly functioning men outside of the black community to marry.

    Guilt tripping highly functioning black women because they have done well while the Shenanays and Ray-Rays drag everyone else down and they are told they are the ones to find solutions to the community’s and their black male peer’s dysfunctionality (all the crazy rhetoric of what black women should do to save black men and the crazy dating advice for black women, but none for black men).

    Thus, black women are the ones going primarily to the Social Services agencies for adoptions, and not the private agencies, which arguably might get less black families in addition, because they are more expensive. And yet, these private agencies are more likely to have available the children of highly functioning women of whatever background, and there are sources out there for paying a high cost private infant adoption, plus there are tax breaks.

  42. Lynn says:

    I’ve spent the weekend mulling over this post and pondering the end result of the black collective’s actions. Before this post I had not fully considered or understood the full consequences of the AA underclasses’ actions. Thank you so much Khadija for having the fortitude to share this with the rest of the BWE community. I definitely want to point out that I’m not including the poor working class of AA, only the AA’s that are destroying our collective a little more every year.

    Over the past five years I’ve increasingly distanced myself from associating with Black people or their toxic organizations (i.e. the Black church). Sometimes, I’ve felt twinges of guilt because I felt maybe I’m a little too judgemental, like judging a book by its cover. Now, I know in my heart that I’m doing the right thing for my well being and safety. I have not dated a Black man in over five years, and my dating experiences have turned a complete 180 degrees for the better. I do not acknowledge Black males under 50, and also the majority of the females under 35 that I meet in everyday life. I feel disconnected and unable to relate to them due to mass cultural shifts in large segments of Black society.

    I’ve been feeling that the younger generation as a whole are “off” in some degree. I thought it was me until I read this post. Now I’m able to put a name and list the voluntary actions Black people have made to get to this point where we are de-evolving so quickly. I’ve literally been scared to the very core of my being that in the near future the majority of Black people will have mutated beyond all recognition as human beings. I’ve also the noticed the “mental slowness” and facial deformities that are showing up in the underclasss. Again, I thought I was being to harsh, and stereotypical. I’m so relieved to know how right my gut instincts have been. This post has truly alerted me that time is running out for those of us who want to escape the consequences of this regression to savages. We need to be actively working on our escape plans everyday.
    Though I don’t have children nor do I want to have children, one of my concerns is those of us who do, what are we imparting onto our children, particularly our daughters? Will we have the courage to tell our little girls, when the time is right, that there will be two “types” of AAs, and the ones to avoid? Or will we also be like the previous generation, always trying to cover up the “dirty laundry”? Or will we be uncomfortable to address the ugly truth to our children about Black folks’ de-evolution?
    I want to keep in mind that it will ultimately be up to the next generation to preserve our arks. One mistake in the next generation, such as breeding with these mutants, could lead to our descendents eventually joining the masses.
    I would like to know what others feel about this, and how are we going to address this in the future.

    • Karen says:

      Dear Lynn,

      We are on the same page. To answer the question how to address this in the future, my answer would be to ensure that our daughters read books like Sojourner’s Passport and any other similar books which lay bare the uncomfortable truths. We must educate them to the realities.

      It is too late to turn back the tide, therefore we have to take measures on and individual basis.

      Based on the fact that there will be ever fewer quality males coming out of the AA collective, it is imperative that our daughters seek quality mates from other groups. It also will mean that AAs that do thrive in future generations will not look very much like us today and may not even be acknowledged as coming from the AA collective.

      Personally, it is a fate that I accept if it is the price to be paid to ensure that some of us (AA women and girls) escape these war zones.

      Given what Rosyln, Khadija and Lafemmenoir has shared, we no longer have any time to “sugar-coat” the realities, time is running out.

      • Lynn says:

        I cosign that!

      • lafemmenoir says:

        Cosign as well. I also want to say that no black american (diaspora) is all black. We have had some mixing along the way, so mixed children won’t bother me one bit.

  43. Greetings, PioneerValleyWoman!

    You said, “If that isn’t an example of “Inception”, I don’t know what is. Where did it come from? The same source of the “Save Alla Our People” mindset, as you have been speaking of it–highly functioning black women who have not married (because of dysfunctional black community dynamics) looking to adopt rather than encouraging them to find highly functioning men outside of the black community to marry.”

    I believe there are elements of that and of the guilt-tripping that you mention in your comment. Overall, I think it’s more a matter of BW thinking only inside mental boxes they don’t necessarily know they have. It reminds me of an All In The Family episode (“Gloria and the Riddle” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVBVSpuF-hQ) that made a HUGE impression on me when I was a little girl.

    [My parents were avid watchers of that show. I remember asking my parents to explain the bigoted Archie character’s sarcastic comment that “female fairs are for female fairies.” I don’t recall what their answer was. {chuckling} It’s funny the childhood memories that stick with you. There are several episodes of specific tv shows from that era that I remember. A couple of All in the Family episodes (this episode and the one where Maude comes to visit); Multiplication Rock; disliking the Jackson 5 cartoon and the Osmonds cartoon].]

    My vague memory of the setup to the riddle: Gloria tells her family a riddle involving a man who’s been injured in a car accident being brought to the emergency room. His father, who was riding with him, was killed in the same car accident. When the young man is brought into the emergency room, the doctor on staff says, “I can’t operate on him; he’s my son.” Gloria asked her family (including her “liberal” and male feminist husband Mike) to explain why the doctor couldn’t operate on the young man. Archie and Mike went through changes coming up with all sorts of convoluted, nonsensical reasons why the doctor couldn’t operate on the young man. [The doctor was the family priest, etc., etc.]

    I do clearly remember the answer to the riddle: The doctor couldn’t operate on the young man because he was HER son—she was his mother. It’s interesting that when this episode aired in the early 1970s, the riddle was a brainteaser because it apparently didn’t occur to most people that the surgeon could be a woman!

    Well, I think a similar thing is happening with the single AA women who are considering single adoption as a Plan B. They don’t want to totally miss out on parenthood, but due to cultural programming it just hasn’t occurred to them that there’s another answer—as you said, “to find highly functioning men outside of the black community to marry.”
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    Lynn,

    You’re welcome! It’s best if AA women start speaking the plain truth to each other about these matters; and face the harsh realities that will continue to have an escalating disastrous effect on our lives if we continue to ignore them. AA women living within the confines of mass AA cultural dictates is already a disaster. Doing so has already diminished and destroyed many AA women’s lives. It’s been killing many of us “softly.” With stress-related, emotional-eating-obesitiy-related ailments such as high blood pressure, stroke, diabetes, etc.

    But what those AA women who remain within striking distance of the deformed, defective, toxic AA underclass will suffer is straight out of Rwanda, the Congo, and Sierra Leone. The “chop both your hands off (as in Sierra Leone)”-level of atrocities are “coming attractions” for US Black residential areas. The mass gang rapes, gang rapes with foreign objects, and rape involving forced incest have already arrived among AAs.

    You said, “I definitely want to point out that I’m not including the poor working class of AA, only the AA’s that are destroying our collective a little more every year.”

    I agree. The AA underclass is a breed apart from all other AAs. Although, I will note that the underclass members are the ones who set the mass cultural agenda for most AAs. Their fashions, fads, ways of behaving, style of speaking are what other AAs imitate.

    You said, “I thought it was me until I read this post. Now I’m able to put a name and list the voluntary actions Black people have made to get to this point where we are de-evolving so quickly. I’ve literally been scared to the very core of my being that in the near future the majority of Black people will have mutated beyond all recognition as human beings. I’ve also the noticed the “mental slowness” and facial deformities that are showing up in the underclasss. Again, I thought I was being to harsh, and stereotypical. I’m so relieved to know how right my gut instincts have been. This post has truly alerted me that time is running out for those of us who want to escape the consequences of this regression to savages. We need to be actively working on our escape plans everyday.”

    Indeed. I repeat: For all who haven’t already done so, the time to get out is right now. Before the peace walls go up. The Endless Night has already begun among the AA collective.

    You said, “Though I don’t have children nor do I want to have children, one of my concerns is those of us who do, what are we imparting onto our children, particularly our daughters? Will we have the courage to tell our little girls, when the time is right, that there will be two “types” of AAs, and the ones to avoid? Or will we also be like the previous generation, always trying to cover up the “dirty laundry”? Or will we be uncomfortable to address the ugly truth to our children about Black folks’ de-evolution? . . . I would like to know what others feel about this, and how are we going to address this in the future.”

    I believe most AA women will continue to cover up and make excuses for the dirty laundry, to the detriment of their daughters. I see this among most of my married AA women friends and acquaintances. Keep in mind, I’m only including the AA women who are at least partially aware—I’m not counting the totally deluded women I know.

    The determining factor seems to be whether or not an AA woman has a son. The women I know who don’t have any sons are pretty upfront with their daughters about reality. The ones who have sons are resistant to acknowledging reality when speaking to their daughters. This is because they’re more concerned about their sons having the widest range of romantic choices, than they are about the quality of their daughters’ lives. Of course, they don’t put it like this. But the trade-off they’re making is quite obvious when you talk to them in depth (and repeatedly) about these issues.

    The women with sons are frightened and upset by plain talk about the “quality gap” between AA men and women (this is the way one mother I know has described the current situation). The phrase I keep hearing from the women who also have sons is, “I wouldn’t want anybody (pre-)judging my son like that.” In other words, these AA mothers I know who also have sons are worried at the prospect of younger BW being warned:

    1-NOT to give BM the benefit of any doubts,

    2-NOT to assume that they’re “brothas” or “good BM,” and

    3-NOT to wait around to “work with a brotha.”

    These mothers see these sorts of warnings becoming widespread among younger AA women and girls as damaging to their sons’ opportunities. So, they’re not willing to have these warnings given to AA girls and young women . . . not even to their own daughters…

    Expect Success!

  44. I have a son who is my only child, and I’m actually worried about the caliber of women he’ll have access to when he’s ready to start dating. We plan to rear him as a decent, respectable young man and I fear that too many other parents aren’t doing the same. When we meet strangers in the stores or whatnot many of them ask if he has a girlfriend, and comment on the way women will be chasing him. Someone even commented that he was going to be a “little player.” Uh, he’s SIX. It’s all I can do not to run from these people screaming.

    I think all too often as a culture we sexualize children, especially black boys too early. The assumption is that a boy will always be interested in sex, and this isn’t always the case. I think there are times when they are subject to the same peer pressure that girls are, and this is unfortunate. This concept of what being black is makes me absolutely insane and I will certainly talk to my son about it. I’ve seen the impact that this mindset can have even on kids that have been brought up in solidly middle-class communities. It often hits even harder on kids who are fair complected.

    This black underclass culture is to my mind the greatest threat to my son’s future and even his very life. I’m terrified that despite all our efforts to raise a decent human being all our efforts can be snuffed out in an instant. I’m frustrated that we have to live in a primarily white neighborhood, but here in Atlanta we can’t afford to live in an affluent black neighborhood, and I’ve already commented on the dangers of even black middle-class neighborhoods. I hate that we see so few black people, and I’m making a conscious effort to find like-minded black families, but thus far I haven’t been successful.

  45. ***Note to Readers***

    In making this new site the kind of project that’s sustainable for me over the long-run, I’ve had to streamline how I handle certain things. The comments section is one of them. What this means is that I’ll give substantive responses to those folks who enter the conversations early (as I did across the board at the previous blog).

    After each post is a couple of days old, I’ll generally continue to publish new comments from readers. (That meet the commenting guidelines as set forth at the previous blog—those who are unfamiliar can read the comment “box” at the previous blog.)

    But, after a each post is a couple of days old, I generally WON’T continue responding to new comments.

    In other words, I’ll continue to publish comments to this post, but I’m not going to reply to any more comments in this thread. FYI. Please feel free to continue talking among yourselves!

    Expect Success!

  46. lafemmenoir says:

    Khadija wrote:
    “There are many, many confused AAs. The progressive activist types of AAs don’t understand that Latinos are our rivals, and not our allies or even friends.”

    Khadija, can you clarify how you meant this statement to be taken?

    Personally, I don’t see them as allies because of the devisive tactics that they use. What I mean is this- if a black helps them, they *never* repay the favor. They always help their own kind. Period. So I don’t understand why black “leader’s” are always running to their defense. They never come to ours!

  47. **Warning: EXTREMELY LONG REPLY—Because this is my final exception to my “I’m not responding to any more comments during this conversation” statement above 🙂 **

    Lafemmenoir,

    You said, “Personally, I don’t see them as allies because of the devisive tactics that they use. What I mean is this- if a black helps them, they *never* repay the favor. They always help their own kind. Period. So I don’t understand why black “leader’s” are always running to their defense. They never come to ours!”

    This has been the overall AA experience with ALL categories of immigrants of color that come to the US, including the Black ones. Other people see that AAs are mostly gullible and desperate for validation from non-AA outsiders. They quite rationally take full advantage of the opportunities presented by our naivete, insecurity, and lack of ethnic self-respect.

    This issue of AAs deluding themselves into taking rivals for allies is something that I warned about 2 years ago at the previous blog. I talked about this during the first few posts I ever wrote at the previous blog, specifically the Charity Should Begin At Home series of posts. Here’s Part 1:

    Common sense and a healthy instinct for self-preservation dictate that charity begins at home. And it does. For everybody except African-Americans. We’re too busy sharing what we don’t even have, and putting other people’s interests before our own. Before I get too far into this topic, let me make it clear that I am not advocating resentment against any other group of people. It is perfectly natural (and fair) for people to look out for their own interests. I’m simply pointing out a trend that is not in our long-term interests; and the fact that we need to do a better job of self-preservation.

    Let me also make it clear that when I refer to “African-Americans” in this post, I’m exclusively referring to the people who are descended from those Africans who were held in slavery here in the United States. In the context of this post, I’m referring exclusively to the people whose struggle and dead martyrs paved the way to progress during the Civil Rights Movement. Before somebody says “us too,” I’ll note that there were others who participated. Like Panamanian-born Kenneth Clark (who conducted the doll study involved in the Brown v. Board of Education case). However, the overwhelming majority of the people who created, supported and died in this struggle were African-Americans.

    We engage in self-oppression when we refuse to look out for our own interests. This is a large part of why African-Americans continue to suffer as a group. Our self-defeating behavior is part of the reason why other ethnic groups, including foreign Blacks, have been able to advance while we fall further behind. The only thing that remains constant is our position at the bottom of almost every measurable social index.

    The core problem is our general refusal to properly understand our unique history, our unique struggle, and our unique situation within this country. Many African-Americans refuse to understand that other so-called people of color (including many of our foreign Black cousins) are actually RIVALS for many of the resources and opportunities that our people’s struggle created. We want to believe that we are in “coalitions” with other people.

    Umm. . . No. What has happened is that other ethnic groups have harnessed our energy and resources in support of their agendas. When African-Americans participate in coalitions, we allow others to capitalize off of our unique history and the unique debt that is owed to us. Resources that should go to us as restitution for the specific harms that have been done to us in this country are siphoned off by other groups. The African-American Civil Rights Movement created resources that should have been used as restitution for the centuries of slavery, followed by the century of official Jim Crow segregation that our people have suffered right here. Instead, these resources have been converted into vague “diversity” programs that benefit everybody else.

    There’s a story entitled, “Study: Universities prefer foreign black students” from the March 7, 2007 issue of The Daily Princetonian. Here’s the link: http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2007/03/07/news/17622.shtml

    The story describes the current situation. Here’s the money quote:

    “Blacks at Ivy League schools are over three times more likely to be immigrants than blacks in America’s general population, a study published in February’s American Journal of Education and coauthored by Princeton researchers suggests. Within the United States, first and second-generation black immigrants make up 13 percent of the total black population. In contrast, data from the National Longitudinal Study of Freshmen found that international black students—either first or second-generation—made up 23 percent of blacks attending public universities and 41 percent of those attending Ivy League schools.” (emphasis added)

    This is just the beginning stage of this trend line. I could compare it to the point in the 1960s when the Moynihan Report came out warning about the rise of single-parent Black families. We ignore this situation at our own peril. Many of us depend on set-aside programs to either pay for, or to get into, much of higher education. If these resources created by our civil rights martyrs continue to be systematically diverted to other people, then we’re in a lot of trouble as a group. Any future depends upon access to higher education.

    What will we do when the percentage of immigrant-origin Blacks among Black college students reaches 51%? Or 75%? Or 90%?

    It looks like we’ll do something similar to what we do in terms of Latino immigration. We stand and watch while legal and illegal Latino immigrants work at construction jobs in Black residential areas. Soon, we’ll be watching our foreign Black cousins and their children go off to college while we remain behind in our slums.

    Here’s another money quote from the story,”What to do with the conclusions of the study depends on admission officers’ definition of affirmative action, Massey said. ‘If the purpose of affirmative action is to redress past wrongs and redress former slaves and people victimized by a century of Jim Crow, then you want to favor native blacks perhaps,’ he said. ‘If the purpose is to reflect the diversity of American society, then you want to favor immigrant blacks.'”

    This ties into why I have extremely ambivalent feelings about Black immigrants who are pushy about claiming the label “African-American” for themselves. Other people re-defining our category to suit their needs helps to obscure situations like the one described in the article. After all, how does one measure or track this situation if immigrant-origin Blacks are claiming to be “African-Americans”? I also start to wonder if some of them are so quick to claim this label when there’s nothing to be gained from calling oneself “African-American.” Do they call themselves “African-American” just to reap the benefits of our struggle? Or do they do this out of a real sense of solidarity with us?

    I’ve met a number of Black immigrants who stand in sincere solidarity with us. I’ve met a number who do not. I’ve also run across those who only claim any connection to us when there is something to be gained.

    The story ends with a quote from an African student stating that he doesn’t feel that Africans are overrepresented at Princeton. He goes on to add that, in economic terms, African children are disadvantaged compared to African-American children. I see nothing wrong with him saying this. He’s just looking our for his best interests. I would be saying similar things if I was of immigrant origin.

    When are we going to start looking out for our best interests? When are we going to use whatever influence we have with any of these college admissions officers to ensure that African-Americans get at least a proportionate slice of the resources that our martyrs created? Let me be clear: I’m not interested in blocking anybody else’s advancement. I just want to make sure that my own group gets our slice. I’ve got some phone calls to make. I hope you make some calls too.

    Here’s Part 2 of this series, Black Folks’ Mass Suicide By Coalition:

    African-American leaders are feckless and foolish. Most of them have an uncompromising commitment to mediocrity and political fantasies. One such fantasy has been the notion of a rainbow coalition. And we’ve been fools to buy into this fantasy. Most of us never developed the simple (yet life-saving) habit of asking, “What’s in it for us [to support x, y, z position]?” Many of us still don’t understand that what our (mis)leaders call “coalitions” and “alliances” actually consist of other people capitalizing off of our unique historical struggle.

    Our lack of political common sense has already cost us. Dearly. In terms of political empowerment, we’ve already slit our own wrists. Our (mis)leaders encouraged us to support Latino and other non-White immigration, and to cry copious tears over the “plight” of various categories of illegal immigrants. We were encouraged to assume that non-White immigrants were somehow our natural, and automatic allies in the quest for justice.

    Umm . . . No. People generally come to the United States to get paid. Period. There’s nothing wrong with that. Like I said in Part 1 of this series, it is normal, natural, and fair for people to look out for their own interests. I would like to see more African-Americans acquire this mental habit. Somehow, we got it in our heads that other people of color are naturally inclined to help us in our struggle. NO. Helping us is not part of most immigrants’ mission profile. People come here to find a better life for themselves. Not to join our struggle.

    We are now reaping the consequences of foolishly supporting non-White (legal and illegal) immigration to this country. We are being displaced. We are being physically displaced in many areas of the country. This physical displacement leads to political displacement. Many currently Black congressional districts have large and growing Latino populations. NO Latino districts have growing Black populations. I’ve read reports estimating that this demographic shift will cause Blacks to lose 6-7 congressional seats after the 2010 census redistricting.

    One example of this was last year’s battle for the traditionally Black 37th Congressional District seat in Southern California. This district covers an area including much of Long Beach, Compton, and Watts. The death of Rep. Juanita Millender-McDonald led to a special primary election. A May 8, 2007 article from Politico.com talks about this political race. Here’s the link:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0507/3888.html

    An African-American candidate ultimately won the seat. See the July 3, 2007 article from the Los Angeles Times entitled, “Racial issues take a back seat in 37th – Multiracial support has Laura Richardson poised to represent a largely Latino district. Her take: ‘We are a new America, very diverse.'” http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jul/03/local/me-congress3

    However, it is important to note that Rep. Richardson won a Democratic primary with 10 other candidates running. She then went on to win the runoff election against 3 other candidates. This is not an example of a strong, solid victory. It sounds quite fragile. Decades of believing in a “Black and Brown Together” fantasy helped make this vulnerable situation possible. We enabled our own political disenfranchisement by supporting non-White immigration. We slit our own wrists.

    As a side note, Rep. Richardson is half White. She has an African-American father and a White mother. I don’t know if she emphasized this fact during her campaign. I also don’t know whether or not she self-identifies as “Black” or if she’s highly invested in indentifying as something distinct from Black, such as “biracial.” The media refer to her as African-American. Her parents divorced, and she was raised by her White mother. http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002573713

    The displacement and disenfranchisement of African-Americans in California’s big cities is fairly obvious. What’s not so obvious is that this process is being replicated in small towns across the South. Legal and illegal immigrants are overrunning rural towns all over “Dixie.” Praise God, some of us are starting to wake up and see this for what it is: NOT in our interests. A Los Angeles Times article from August 31, 2008 entitled, “Immigrant raid divides a Mississippi town” mentions the variety of reactions to an immigration raid.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-raids31-2008aug31,0,219718.story

    The above story talks about the employment angle of illegal immigration. What about the political repercussions? What happens in these towns (and the South in general) if illegal immigrants are given amnesty and the ability to vote? Answer: The same thing that is happening in California. Blacks will be pushed aside in our traditional population centers in the South.

    Miami is a sneak preview of what will become of Black folks’ political fortunes across this country if we don’t change course right now. Looking at Miami, it’s clear that living under the heels of Latino political overlords is not a pretty picture for African-Americans.

    An article from the Winter 2008 volume of City Journal entitled, “The Rainbow Coalition Evaporates” also describes how some of us are belatedly coming to our senses. http://city-journal.org/2008/18_1_blacks_and_immigration.html

    I just hope that this realization hasn’t come too late. We’ve already slit our own wrists, and the blood is flowing freely. There’s still time to bandage some of the wounds, but only if we immediately start looking out for our own best interests.

    http://muslimbushido.blogspot.com/2008/09/charity-should-begin-at-home-part-2.html
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    It’s now 2 years later, and the political damage I warned about has already begun. Our idiotic misleadership class never seems to notice that other POC’s political advancement almost always comes at the expense of AA political representation: The first Vietnamese-American Congressman being elected from a majority AA district in Louisiana, Latino politicians taking over in historically previously AA districts, White mayors being elected in now-majority AA Southern cities is the wave of the future.

    All of this is happening in the context of the last remnants of old-school, respond-to-AA-issues types of politicians being rounded up (Charles Rangel, Maxine Waters, I’m sure more to come). Soon, all we’ll have are Crossover Negro Politicians who were elected on the basis of their willingness to ignore AAs’ needs—like Pres. Obama.

    From the very beginning at the previous blog, I warned folks about how AAs will reap a fatal whirlwind from Crossover Negro Politicians (such as then-Sen. Obama) once all the old-school AA politicians and old-school AA activists like Rev. Baby Daddy and Rev. Hot Comb are off the scene. My fears about what would happen to AAs with the election of increasing numbers of Crossover Black Politicians like Pres. Obama was what first prompted me to start blogging in the first place. As I said in my very first blog post from 9-5-08:

    Those of you who know me already know that I’ve been yelling the alarm about the coming financial collapse. And about how most Black folks (due to Obama-related-mania) are not doing anything to prepare. Here’s a recap:

    1. This economy is going to crash around our heads. This process has already begun. I strongly urge everyone to develop as many income streams as possible. ASAP. Depending on a single paycheck is courting disaster.

    2. We haven’t seen the full extent of the damage because the powers that be (PTB) have been hiding much of the damage. The PTB have done this to protect the image of the boy-prince, George W. Bush. The PTB won’t extend the same service to Sen. Obama if he is elected president. In fact, if Obama is elected, they’ll let it all fall apart to ensure that he gets the blame for the past 8 years of fiscal mismanagement.

    3. In the midst of frolicking in our Obama-mania, most Black people haven’t thought through the repercussions of having Sen. Obama elected.

    4. For example, if Sen. Obama is elected president this means that the days of crying to Whites about racism are OVER. For real. They won’t entertain that noise anymore. They will say that racism can’t be that bad—after all, a Black (sort-of) man was elected president.

    [For the purposes of this discussion, I won’t go into detail about how in order to be the first viable “Black” presidential candidate, it seems that the candidate must be half-Other and half-foreign origin. In order to have a serious chance to be the first Black president, it helps that Sen. Obama is half-White and half-something-other-than-African-American. Politically, this is a a new “paper bag test” in operation.]

    5. Black leadership (such as it is) does not have any other strategy beyond protesting racism. Collectively, Black folks don’t have a back-up plan. This is a problem.

    6. If elected, a Pres. Obama will feel the need to prove to Whites that he’s not partial to us. He will do this by ignoring our issues and problems. There won’t be any help coming from an Obama Administration. Not specifically for Black folks.

    7. Because Black folks are addicted to symbol over substance, most of us will continue to support a Pres. Obama no matter what he does. Even while he literally ignores us to death. After all, we “gotta support a brother.” We love seeing Black faces in high places. Even when these Black-skinned folks do a great deal of damage to our interests. [For examples, see Black folks’ continued expressions of support and admiration for Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, etc.]

    Here’s a quick reading list for those who are ready to face reality and prepare:

    8. The excellent articles by Dmitry Orlov posted at http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net. Check out his series entitled “Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post American Century,” and “Surviving a Financial Collapse.”

    9. And the following books:
    a. When Technology Fails: A Manual for Self-Reliance & Planetary Survival by Matthew Stein.
    b. Gardening When It Counts: Growing Food in Hard Times by Steve Soloman.
    c. The Secure Home by Joel M. Skousen.

    People, Get Ready!

    http://muslimbushido.blogspot.com/2008/09/reading-list-for-2nd-great-depression.html
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    The day of the AA politician is OVER. This is the beginning of the disastrous Second Reconstruction for AA aspirations. This is another nail in the coffin of the AA collective.

    I considered blogging about this at this blog, but I rejected the idea. The destructive processes I warned about 2 years ago are already “done deals.” The only possibility that’s left is one of individual salvation and advancement for those individual AA women who wake up, smell the coffee, and act accordingly.

    Expect Success!

  48. ann says:

    “Our (mis)leaders encouraged us to support Latino and other non-White immigration, and to cry copious tears over the “plight” of various categories of illegal immigrants. We were encouraged to assume that non-White immigrants were somehow our natural, and automatic allies in the quest for justice.

    Umm . . . No. People generally come to the United States to get paid. Period. There’s nothing wrong with that.”

    I AGREE 100%. AA politicians are falling like dominoes.

    I work at probably the last HBCU that had open or selective enrollment. This fall will be the first time we will have selective enrollment and maybe 10% open enrollment, question is who gets to decide who the 10% will be?

    The formally majority run AA university is now controlled by foreign born Africans and other foreign born people. You only need one hand to count the AA’s who have “real” power.

    Sometimes when I am at work I think about some of the things Khadija and others have written about our dismal economy. I can see some of those things coming to past on campus.

    At least for the past six years I have been reading and listening to various radio announcers who have been saying some of the same things. Some people call Coast to Coast radio program a conspiracy theory type program. I do not agree with everything that is said; however, they do make you think.

    My foreign born bw co-worker told me today that this new health care major that will start this fall(Ironically, after open enrollment has closed) will become more selective.
    My co-worker claims that program will not become selective for another two years. I say B S. I would not be surprise if the new selective process began this coming Spring. The lady that runs the program was born in Jamaica. Another vaiable program we do not manage. Hmmm.

    What does all this mean to AA people seeking an education?

    I believe it means those AA people (especially those who have issues with math) will find it even more difficult to obtain an higher education.

    I said it before, America is slowly becoming the new third world nation and guess who will probably be at the bottom of the ladder looking up? Think India and how they treat the majority of their darker people, especially the women. Not a pleasant future for most.

    Ladies, get an education that will pay you well(health care careers and I do not mean nurse’s aide), enough of the low level men, take your blinders off…date/marry out- quality men only, and try to move as far from the city as possible or at least move out of the majority bc.

    Peace

    • lafemmenoir says:

      Khadija,
      Thank you for coming back to address my question. Silly me, I hadn’t scrolled down to see that you’d already concluded your responses.

      The books that Khadija listed are on my list for this weekend when I go into B&N (gift certificate). I was thinking about the garden my great aunt used to have here in the city in her backyard when I was a kid. I loved helping her. I know that this won’t be gardening for fun though, but out of necessity. I imagine food shortages and worse. I was also thinking about trying to purchase land and building a simple house on it because in all reality, I think that the cities will definitely become a death trap in the days to come. Those who don’t have transportation will be forced to stay within city limits.I will have to carefully read the book on securing your home!

      Have any of you other ladies read any of these books? Or are planning to? if you’ve read a book, what book was it and what where your thoughts?

  49. Oshun/Aphrodite says:

    Here are some links to international news sources if anyone is interested:

    http://www.abyznewslinks.com/

    http://archive.newsmax.com/links_intl.shtml

    http://www.thebigproject.co.uk/news/

    The lists are massive…

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